Originally Posted by lamboguy (Post 2264728)

Mahoning's first race was a 6 furlong event, with zero minutes to post they changed it to 5 1/2.

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2264737)

I've seen it before. I remember CT having to change 4.5f to 4f due to the chute being frozen or different than the rest of the track. Think I've seen it all by now. I even remember TuP moving races off dirt to turf.

Originally Posted by lamboguy (Post 2264780)

wow, i must admit i have never heard of a race coming off the dirt and going to the turf. that one is quite a head-scratcher.

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2264737)

I've seen it before. I remember CT having to change 4.5f to 4f due to the chute being frozen or different than the rest of the track. Think I've seen it all by now. I even remember TuP moving races off dirt to turf.

Originally Posted by onefast99 (Post 2264790)

so the trainer has no idea the race was being moved to the turf from the dirt, the owner, the bettors everyone involved was just ok with this? And to top it off I bet the racing office said if you scratch you will get 10 days...amazing...

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike (Post 2264793)

Yes, it happened a number of times in the fall of 2004. I believe the chute aree wasn't draining properly - oddly, I believe it was right after they paid to have a new track installed with better drainage.

Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2264803)

Why do you assume all that instead of assuming it was the same as happens when moving from turf to dirt?

Originally Posted by Jeff P (Post 2264858)

Back in the 1980's I lived in Phoenix and made it to Turf Paradise most weekdays and almost every Sat and Sun.

The dirt surface back then had a lot of clay in it. To say it didn't handle water would be an understatement.

You almost never see it these days because (in my opinion) most tracks cancel at the drop of a feather...

But remember the letters HY for track condition heavy?

Phoenix doesn't get a lot of rain to begin with. Whenever it rained more than about three quarters of an inch the Turf Paradise dirt surface would become this deep and sticky bog. Imo, the letters HY didn't begin to describe it. Not the kind of stuff you'd want to make your horse race in unless you knew going in he could handle it.

I recall being there one Sunday afternoon sometime in the mid 1980's -- and hearing the track announcer cut in and say - not a direct quote but me paraphrasing:


At some point later on that afternoon - the thought occurred to me how cool it was (both from a betting perspective and an aesthetics perspective) to have EVERY race conducted on the turf course.

I also remember thinking that if they were going to take the races off the dirt and run them on the turf course:

I wish it would rain more often!


-jp

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Originally Posted by Jeff P (Post 2264858)

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I wish it would rain more often!


-jp

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