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Igeteven 02-27-2010 12:22 PM

Frank Stronach interview with Roger Stein (HORRIBLE)
 
Does this man really know racing? Does he care about Owners, Trainers, and the Player?


After the interview on the radio, I say no, it goes to show you, how a man with no brains can control a race track and have the well fair of hundred of thousands of people in his hand.


This goes to show you, as well in Politics the rich control the masses. Here is a very rich man, how he did it, I don't know, however, some one made his money for him, I can't believe it for one second, he did it on his own.

This man has a ego as hard as stainless steel and he is no different then any other rich SOB who could care less about the people under him.


It's is shame that one man with no brains, can be in power and everyone.
around him, kiss his ass.

Sounds like Hitler, Stalin, our government, and any other politician around. Protecting their ass, and could care less about the sport it self.

jballscalls 02-27-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Igeteven
Does this man really know racing? Does he care about Owners, Trainers, and the Player?


After the interview on the radio, I say no, it goes to show you, how a man with no brains can control a race track and have the well fair of hundred of thousands of people in his hand.


This goes to show you, as well in Politics the rich control the masses. Here is a very rich man, how he did it, I don't know, however, some one made his money for him, I can't believe it for one second, he did it on his own.

This man has a ego as hard as stainless steel and he is no different then any other rich SOB who could care less about the people under him.


It's is shame that one man with no brains, can be in power and everyone.
around him, kiss his ass.

Sounds like Hitler, Stalin, our government, and any other politician around. Protecting their ass, and could care less about the sport it self.

always cracks me up when a guy anonymously comes on a fan board and rips a guy saying he has no brains and then immediately thinks welfare is not only two words, but is spelled well fair.

always find that ironic.

but to actually address your point, i'd love to hear audio of the interview. do you have a link so we can listen to the interview?? Even though I work for one of his tracks, i've never met him or even heard him speak for that matter, would be interested in hearing it.

Igeteven 02-27-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
always cracks me up when a guy anonymously comes on a fan board and rips a guy saying he has no brains and then immediately thinks welfare is not only two words, but is spelled well fair.

always find that ironic.

but to actually address your point, i'd love to hear audio of the interview. do you have a link so we can listen to the interview?? Even though I work for one of his tracks, i've never met him or even heard him speak for that matter, would be interested in hearing it.


I really got a little emotional with the interview that set me off, sorry about the spelling


http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

jballscalls 02-27-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Igeteven
I really got a little emotional with the interview that set me off, sorry about the spelling


http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

i was just busting chops about the spelling, we all do it.

thanks for posting

Igeteven 02-27-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jballscalls
i was just busting chops about the spelling, we all do it.

thanks for posting


Listen to the interview, unreal

andymays 02-27-2010 01:21 PM

One of the best parts was when Roger tried to get him to agree to low takeout. He couldn't even answer that. That tells me takeouts going up 5%! :ThmbDown:

Horseplayersbet.com 02-27-2010 01:22 PM

I blame Roger Stein almost as much as I blame Stronach for this complete waste of an interview.

Stronach constantly said horse racing has lots of problems. What are the problems? Stein never asked him what the problems are, it was obvious he was not going to answer the artificial track question.

Stein didn't ask him directly what the problems are.

Again, no mention about the player, the customer, the person who pays for everything. He said what the customer wants once (but he has no clue what the customer wants...he proved that by spending countless money beautifying the tracks when he should have been reducing the takeout of all the tracks he owned in order to build on the momentum of internet betting at the time).

Funniest thing is that he said he has shareholders he is accountable to. Those who bought Magna Entertainment were given as much consideration as he gives the horseplayer. He doesn't understand the customer and shows absolutely no intention of doing so.

He totally disregarded the takeout question, and just kept repeating we have problems and if they aren't fixed, there will be no more California racing.

This guy is a failure as a race track owner and race track visionary, and one of the biggest problems horse racing has today is guys like this still have a major seat at the table.

Best thing for horse racing is Stronach goes on a retirement cruise for 15 years.

andymays 02-27-2010 01:23 PM

Santa Anita rained out today.


More bad Karma for Santa Anita and Stronach.

andymays 02-27-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com
I blame Roger Stein almost as much as I blame Stronach for this complete waste of an interview.

Stronach constantly said horse racing has lots of problems. What are the problems? Stein never asked him what the problems are, it was obvious he was not going to answer the artificial track question.

Stein didn't ask him directly what the problems are.

Again, no mention about the player, the customer, the person who pays for everything. He said what the customer wants once (but he has no clue what the customer wants...he proved that by spending countless money beautifying the tracks when he should have been reducing the takeout of all the tracks he owned in order to build on the momentum of internet betting at the time).

Funniest thing is that he said he has shareholders he is accountable to. Those who bought Magna Entertainment were given as much consideration as he gives the horseplayer. He doesn't understand the customer and shows absolutely no intention of doing so.

He totally disregarded the takeout question, and just kept repeating we have problems and if they aren't fixed, there will be no more California racing.

This guy is a failure as a race track owner and race track visionary, and one of the biggest problems horse racing has today is guys like this still have a major seat at the table.

Best thing for horse racing is Stronach goes on a retirement cruise for 15 years.


I don't know how you can blame Stein. He tried asking him directly, indirectly, and even tried tricking him into giving an answer. What makes you think he would have gotten specific about anything else he was asked?

In my opinion Frank Stronach has lost him mind and the only thing keeping him afloat are his advisors and attorneys.

The archived show is up for anyone that want to lose faith that Horse Racing can ever get out of this mess.

http://www.rogerstein.com/radio/archive2.asp

Horseplayersbet.com 02-27-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andymays
I don't know how you can blame Stein. He tried asking him directly, indirectly, and even tried tricking him into giving an answer. What makes you think he would have gotten specific about anything else he was asked?

In my opinion Frank Stronach has lost him mind and the only thing keeping him afloat are his advisors and attorneys.

He never asked what the main problem is and how it can be solved.
If Stein did a capable interview, he would have at least asked that question once or twice.
Not arguing that Stronach wouldn't have answered it, but the questions should have been asked.

andymays 02-27-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com
He never asked what the main problem is and how it can be solved.
If Stein did a capable interview, he would have at least asked that question once or twice.
Not arguing that Stronach wouldn't have answered it, but the questions should have been asked.


The guy wasn't going to answer any question with specifics. Not in a million years. He's nuts in my opinion.

DJofSD 02-27-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com
I blame Roger Stein almost as much as I blame Stronach for this complete waste of an interview.

Stronach constantly said horse racing has lots of problems. What are the problems? Stein never asked him what the problems are, it was obvious he was not going to answer the artificial track question.

Stein didn't ask him directly what the problems are.

Again, no mention about the player, the customer, the person who pays for everything. He said what the customer wants once (but he has no clue what the customer wants...he proved that by spending countless money beautifying the tracks when he should have been reducing the takeout of all the tracks he owned in order to build on the momentum of internet betting at the time).

Funniest thing is that he said he has shareholders he is accountable to. Those who bought Magna Entertainment were given as much consideration as he gives the horseplayer. He doesn't understand the customer and shows absolutely no intention of doing so.

He totally disregarded the takeout question, and just kept repeating we have problems and if they aren't fixed, there will be no more California racing.

This guy is a failure as a race track owner and race track visionary, and one of the biggest problems horse racing has today is guys like this still have a major seat at the table.

Best thing for horse racing is Stronach goes on a retirement cruise for 15 years.

For the most part, I agree with the response.

First of all, Stein comes off as some one with a specific answer he wants to hear, but when the words are not spoken he presses the question over again and again. Try a couple of times then move on.

As to the skills of the interviewer, there was at least a half a dozen tid bits that Frank mentioned that Stein should have persued. It was obvious to me that Stronach has not finished his discussions with the people he wanted to talk to first. Being a business man and working in a highly contrained environment he was not going to make a comment that would have been counterproductive to any discussion he might yet to have.

On a postive note, it sounded like Stronach has not given up and if anything he has some ideas about turing the economic problems of the track and California racing around but would need to get parties to buy in on a radical change and way of doing business.

Why Stein kept on repeating the "you have an engineering degree" phase is beyond me.

ManeMediaMogul 02-27-2010 03:34 PM

I have often compared Stronach and his empire to the Third Reich. (Even his silks have a similar air about them.) The guy is a megalomaniac, but after my most recent trip to Gulfstream Park, I have altered my opinion somewhat.

Since the mall opened up, Stronach's vision is more evident.

The casino is constantly filled, the racetrack has an upbeat feel and generates a level of excitement, even with the small crowd, because the grandstand is not cavernous. The mall offers a diversion if you want to pass a race or two and go for a walk. It offers several options if you want to stick around after the races for a cocktail and some music and/or dinner.

All in all it is very nice.

I have known Mr. Stronach since he purchased Santa Anita and have never been a fan but what he has done at Gulfstream is going to make me root a little harder for him instead of against him.

Igeteven 02-27-2010 05:15 PM

99 percent goes to the horsemen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ManeMediaMogul
I have often compared Stronach and his empire to the Third Reich. (Even his silks have a similar air about them.) The guy is a megalomaniac, but after my most recent trip to Gulfstream Park, I have altered my opinion somewhat.

Since the mall opened up, Stronach's vision is more evident.

The casino is constantly filled, the racetrack has an upbeat feel and generates a level of excitement, even with the small crowd, because the grandstand is not cavernous. The mall offers a diversion if you want to pass a race or two and go for a walk. It offers several options if you want to stick around after the races for a cocktail and some music and/or dinner.

All in all it is very nice.

I have known Mr. Stronach since he purchased Santa Anita and have never been a fan but what he has done at Gulfstream is going to make me root a little harder for him instead of against him.

This man only cares about his horsemen friends, no more, no less, he doesn't give a God Damn about the customer.

johnhannibalsmith 02-27-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Igeteven
This man only cares about his horsemen friends, no more, no less, he doesn't give a God Damn about the customer.

Let's poll some horsemen in Maryland.


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