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Unbridled 07-24-2018 07:44 AM

10-year old maiden wins at Mountaineer
 
Did anyone else see that a 10-year-old maiden coming in from a 5-year layoff won at Mountaineer? Hero's Wager won race 2. Entered 17 0-1-1. Last ran at Keeneland in 2013.

parlay 07-24-2018 08:04 AM

Missed that. I remember 40 odd years ago there was a rule (at least on the OJC) that horses could not start as maidens after a certain age. I don't remember exactly what age it was, thinking 10? At the end of the racing year in frigid November at Greenwood you always saw a few of these types put over so the owners wouldn't have to retire them.

Inner Dirt 07-24-2018 08:58 AM

At least it paid an appropriate win price of $57.40.

bello 07-24-2018 10:41 AM

Had some help in winning the race.

The #7 was home free when his saddle including the jock literally fell off the horse in deep stretch. Still was good seeing the old timer win the race.

Amazingly the jock on the 7 got to his feet after the race but was off all remaining mounts.

If you can get replays, take a look. It was a racing oddity in two ways
1. 10yr maiden winner off 6 year layoff
2. Saddle and jock falling off an easy winner. Haven't seen that since Great Barrington Fair, but I think that was intentional.

dilanesp 07-24-2018 11:01 AM

You had to be a Hero to Wager on him.

bello 07-24-2018 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2346083)
You had to be a Hero to Wager on him.

Unfortunately I didn't BUT, if one looked at the race and saw his last two starts were at Keeneland and they weren't half bad, he would have been a huge favorite. I wish my printer would have left the first column of the PPs out so I would not have seen last start !0-20-13

castaway01 07-24-2018 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bello (Post 2346087)
Unfortunately I didn't BUT, if one looked at the race and saw his last two starts were at Keeneland and they weren't half bad, he would have been a huge favorite. I wish my printer would have left the first column of the PPs out so I would not have seen last start !0-20-13

It's funny how the Tom Amoss dropping a $30K claimer shipping into Saratoga to $20K was the greatest offense in racing history, but making a 10-year-old maiden run---after a 5-year layoff---was cool with you. :lol:

bello 07-24-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castaway01 (Post 2346154)
It's funny how the Tom Amoss dropping a $30K claimer shipping into Saratoga to $20K was the greatest offense in racing history, but making a 10-year-old maiden run---after a 5-year layoff---was cool with you. :lol:

Why should it be a problem? The horse raced and won. I love minor league racing. and that is where the majority of by betting dollars go Slow horse or laid off horses are not the issue.

Hambletonian 07-24-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bello (Post 2346078)
Had some help in winning the race.

The #7 was home free when his saddle including the jock literally fell off the horse in deep stretch. Still was good seeing the old timer win the race.

Amazingly the jock on the 7 got to his feet after the race but was off all remaining mounts.

If you can get replays, take a look. It was a racing oddity in two ways
1. 10yr maiden winner off 6 year layoff
2. Saddle and jock falling off an easy winner. Haven't seen that since Great Barrington Fair, but I think that was intentional.

You're kidding right? You think he set up the saddle to slip while on the lead in deep stretch? He had many ways to lose that race without risking being run over.

bello 07-24-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambletonian (Post 2346239)
You're kidding right? You think he set up the saddle to slip while on the lead in deep stretch? He had many ways to lose that race without risking being run over.

The mountain jock gonzalez did not fall of on purpose and I did not allude to that.

Read this article from Bill Finley. One of the great fair stories is of a jock who is now deceased jumping off his mount to lose. His "punishment" would have been much more severe had he won the race.

"There were legendary tales of chicanery, of jockeys jumping off horses who weren't supposed to win, of horses being bet down from 10-1 to 3-5 in the closing minutes before a race and then winning by dozens of lengths, of exactas combining a 6-1 shot and a 9-2 shot that paid $9.40. They're all true."

http://www.espn.com/sports/horse/col...bill&id=226770

Hambletonian 07-24-2018 08:42 PM

My apologies, I read the sentence as saying that the MNR situation was intentional.

Beyer mentioned the same chicanery in his book. When I started attending the fairs regularly, the incentive for that sort of thing was decreasing as the betting pools were going down while purses were edging up.

highnote 07-24-2018 08:52 PM

Jockeys have fallen off their mounts in deep stretch more than once in England when the horses were heavily laid on the exchanges.

Someday Silent 07-25-2018 11:23 PM

I love stories like this. Horses will always find a way to surprise us.

upthecreek 08-10-2018 03:21 PM

No show favorite investigation @Mnr
 

Brass Hat 08-10-2018 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthecreek (Post 2353793)

Interesting, T.D. Thornton wrote that article. Not sure if he is still the announcer at Suffolk, but his book "Not By a Long Shot", published while Suffolk still had regular racing, recounts an incident where he overheard a jockey planning to fix a race. That jockey was still riding there while he was the announcer and the book was published, took some guts to write that.


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