chadk66 |
06-26-2017 11:49 AM |
SCOTUS OK's travel ban
:ThmbUp:
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Clocker |
06-26-2017 12:05 PM |
It grants a temporary and partial approval.
Quote:
The court said Monday the ban on visitors from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen could be enforced as long as they lack a "credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States." The justices will hear arguments in the case in October.
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Bona fide relationship means family relation, someone already a student in a US school, or someone with employment with a US company.
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tucker6 |
06-26-2017 12:06 PM |
A 90 percent win for The Donald.
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chadk66 |
06-26-2017 12:18 PM |
just more winning. nothing new:headbanger:
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reckless |
06-26-2017 12:44 PM |
While it should have never reached the US Supreme Court in the first place, once again, President Donald J. Trump was proven 100 per cent correct in the travel ban.
In addition to basic common sense, Trump had the US Constitution in his favor.
The real problem was anti-America presidents such as B.J. Clinton and Barry Obama who loaded the lower courts throughout the years with ideologues and idiots, with little regard to our sovereignty, safety, or laws.
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Clocker |
06-26-2017 01:00 PM |
This decision is not about the travel ban, or Trump's ability to issue it. This decision is about the temporary injunctions issued by the 4th and 9th Circuits staying that ban.
The issue as to the legality of the ban will be taken up by the Court in its fall session.
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tucker6 |
06-26-2017 01:13 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
(Post 2188946)
This decision is not about the travel ban, or Trump's ability to issue it. This decision is about the temporary injunctions issued by the 4th and 9th Circuits staying that ban.
The issue as to the legality of the ban will be taken up by the Court in its fall session.
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That may be, but the SCOTUS decision to allow the ban to go forward prior to the hearing speaks volumes about their thinking. The travel ban is for 90 days unless extended. That means that by the time of oral arguments, the ban may be over already.
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woodtoo |
06-26-2017 01:18 PM |
:9: -ayes
Zero-nays
hear,here.
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classhandicapper |
06-26-2017 01:27 PM |
I've lost all faith in congress, the Fed, the media and everyone else in what I think is the biggest priority - getting our financial house in order. They are all a bunch of liars, losers and scumbags. However, if Trump can keep stacking the Supreme Court with young conservative constitutionalists, I'll consider him a resounding success. There's nothing anyone can do to prevent the next market collapse and recession. That story was written during the last administration.
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Valuist |
06-26-2017 01:39 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
(Post 2188957)
I've lost all faith in congress, the Fed, the media and everyone else in what I think is the biggest priority - getting our financial house in order. They are all a bunch of liars, losers and scumbags. However, if Trump can keep stacking the Supreme Court with young conservative constitutionalists, I'll consider him a resounding success. There's nothing anyone can do to prevent the next market collapse and recession. That story was written during the last administration.
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But you and I both know the media will never, ever view it that way. But you are 100% correct.
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Clocker |
06-26-2017 02:12 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by tucker6
(Post 2188948)
The travel ban is for 90 days unless extended. That means that by the time of oral arguments, the ban may be over already.
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I doubt that SCOTUS will issue an order on this before the end of the year.
The 90 day ban is supposed to give the government time to review its vetting procedures. I doubt the administration can accomplish that within 90 days, and if they can, the new procedures will certainly be challenged by the left. So the "temporary" ban will be extended until SCOTUS rules on the issue.
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boxcar |
06-26-2017 02:25 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
(Post 2188980)
I doubt that SCOTUS will issue an order on this before the end of the year.
The 90 day ban is supposed to give the government time to review its vetting procedures. I doubt the administration can accomplish that within 90 days, and if they can, the new procedures will certainly be challenged by the left. So the "temporary" ban will be extended until SCOTUS rules on the issue.
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Maybe not. This administration has had all this time to work quietly during this period of stays. I think it would be outrageously funny if the temporary ban expires and the new vetting procedures are implemented before the SC gets around to hearing what would, then, become a non-case. Talk about an easy, no-brainer court decision. :lol::lol:
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mostpost |
06-26-2017 03:02 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
(Post 2188928)
It grants a temporary and partial approval.
Bona fide relationship means family relation, someone already a student in a US school, or someone with employment with a US company.
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How about that, there is a conservative who can read.
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mostpost |
06-26-2017 03:04 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by tucker6
(Post 2188929)
A 90 percent win for The Donald.
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More like a 30 percent temporary win.
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Clocker |
06-26-2017 03:21 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
(Post 2189006)
How about that, there is a conservative who can read.
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I can also read between the lines. The decision lets the administration do what ever it wants to do.
The word "temporary" has no meaning in government. Once the policy is in place, it will take a Democratic president to take it out.
The exception for those with a "bona fide relationship" also means whatever the administration wants it to mean, because it now needs to establish a vettting procedure to verify a "bona fide relationship".
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