Russia, Trump, Afghanistan... Oh My!
 

The era of global retreat...

Russia's Putin: Taliban must be taken into account at Afghan peace talks

Who asked these guys to do anything...?

Trump says Afghanistan talks 'proceeding well'

Oh... weird...

Foreign troops to quit Afghanistan in 18 months under draft deal: Taliban sources

Okay Putin I see what you're doing...

Apparently McConnell does too... moves to block withdrawal.

Serious question for Administration backers.... when did global retreat become the Policy?

Missed one... color me shocked...

Russia vows to help Iraq battle terrorism after US withdrawal from Syria

His mancrush has no clue

Our inability and/or complete unwillingness to react to the Russian "coming out party" could well end up being our biggest failure of the young century... and we've already had some pretty fantastical blunders.

Everybody loves a party but Pres. Trump.:rant:

Agree.

Closer to home, Venezuela fixing to explode. Starving people do desperate things.

We need international mandate before we head in there...

Our track record among Latin American countries isn't the best on the block. So far we haven't really done anything wrong but we need to be leaning on the OAS and/or UN to formulate a mandate for international involvement... humanitarian at first obviously.

Luckily this Administration is great a playing nice with allies and international bodies. :rolleyes:

They should not have gone to your favorite economic system.

So...Who's permission do we need to park one of our carriers off Caracas?

0bama?

I would say, Putin's.

We don't need anybody's permission but American adventurism in the Western Hemisphere has been... um... problematic in years past.

Going in with coalitions lends some credibility to what you are doing.

So with Trump we just shift it into high gear huh?

Who knew you and Obama agreed so much... :rolleyes:

Who the heck said anything about "we head in there" I mean besides you.

What Venezuela?

We'll be involved in some capacity at this point no matter what happens.

I think Venezuela has its own thread though... we can go back to Trump letting Putin take the helm of world affairs. ;)

Everything has its reason.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia...awmaker-claims

Yeah...?

What's your take on that development.

I have mine and it certainly isn't good for the people of Venezuela.

I intend to view what happens as it happens instead of narrating from Nancy Pelosi's views as you do. The Presidency is a tough job, whatever choice the chief executive makes people die and the exectuive's hair gets shades lighter. I think the President has the latter beat, and we all can pray his actions are for the best result.

That's an awful lot of words to not say anything...

I just think it means Maduro is digging in to fight. Its a lot easier to finance a war when your piggy bank is safe.

Notice my post didn't say anything about Trump, Pelosi, or Trump's hair...

I support the President 110%, when it is his call I am not going to act like some bitch, got it?
Today they moved to seize moneys and accounts and transfer to the new guy, how effective that plays out we will see. Many ways to skin a cat, but he's a fuc$%^g pig.

I found it shocking that Russia flew a plane in and took out two tons of gold.

But this one did.
Just couldn't leave it alone! :lol::lol::lol:

^ Now that is trolling. ^

Hell yeah.....
 

Let's head into Venezuela with guns blazin'.....what could go wrong?

Too funny :pound:

Nope. Observation.
Low hanging fruit.

No moose breath, we could just allow them to fail under their own weight but would that be the right thing to do?

Yeah...

Its not what I would do. I think we have a humanitarian concern there and we certainly don't like the Maduro government. A international peacekeeping/humanitarian force is the way that ensures the best outcome it would seem.

So far so good though... Its not a tremendously tricky situation for us but one we can easily mess up.

What are you actually bringing to this thread?

I mean... we could... or...

We could help them.
Trade with them.
Enjoy mutual prosperity.
Increase our influence.
Prevent the dreaded "caravans"...

You know... option B. :cool:

We could also make it clear that socialism is a dead end.

The man in charge (Maduro) must go one way or another.

I think you're talking past me here...

Maduro is no more socialist than Putin is.

Bullshit, if they implode and we just watch nothing lost on our end. Keep it simple stupid works better than ultraliberal logic.

Uh huh...

Last I checked illegal immigration was a YUGE deal to you.

It doesn't matter though because obviously Trump cares about this situation somewhat or we wouldn't have done anything.

So do you want to walk back your above comment or is he wrong for beginning to weigh in?

Trump authorizes 200 million in humanitarian aid and plans to meet with opposition leader.

(Consider this my potato salad for this thread)

Did he actually do that?

Link?

Headline on TV a few minutes ago.

Good move.

They've carved out some space to maneuver. Getting a coalition behind it would be the next step.

My mistake, 20 mil not 200 mil.

Well none of it is anything more than symbolic right now anyway...

The idea is to begin isolating the regime without getting directly involved in its removal because Imperial America in the Western Hemisphere is a real thing and should be avoided...

Guiado and the Government is currently being raided and reports of American build-up around the area are popping up. The former is a standard practice to a under siege regime and the Americans likely to get in quick and get people out if it goes south.

Next 24-48 should be interesting.

I walk back shit, everything is the Presidents call, making stupid call and being wrong all the time is your behavior. I am plesed to support the guy who actually makes hard calls. You just want someone to cap on for acting like you here at Pace Advantage. Guess what, not on your terms ever.