DACA, Davos, and Dems
 

The Donald is embracing all of the above lately. If he keeps this up, even his base will start to question whether he really is a stable genius.

Don't fret, deplorables, he's probably just testing your loyalty.

Trump has always embraced the idea of DACA and working with the dems on key issues like immigration and infrastructure. I fail to see the news. Trump is not nearly as unyielding as you believe, nor does this Trump supporter believe he's been lied to by our president.

DACA has always been his Trump card to get the wall. Nothing new here.

that's what leadership is - not the my way or the highway that the dimocrats and Harry Reid used when they had control of all 3 wings

Slow news day?

Must be, Tom - after all, you stopped by to read this.

Turns out (which we all suspected anyway), that "the wall" is merely the concept of increased border security which everyone is for and not a 2,000 mile long physical barrier. I agree about working with Dems - he needs 60 votes in the Senate - but going to Davos is a stab in the back to the Bannonite base. Of course, that matters not now as there never really was any use for that base after Election Day. Besides nobody wants to line up with "Sloppy Steve" any more at all.

Well Mike , it is like the first debate between Clinton and President Trump. Very easy going first out, bloody finish last. Look for it, Trump gets what he want or the left gets nothing, zero, zip.

As Trump, sans twitter, becomes a moderate establishment Republican his fans rejoice.

He did a private interview with the NY Times BEFORE he was elected and told them he was going to have to be flexible on immigration in order to accomplish what he wants. It was leaked in an effort to discredit him with his base because of the more moderate tone.

It's naive to listen to any politician during their campaign and then hold them to exactly what they were promising at that time.

Do you think Bernie could have gotten 5% of what he was promising through?

If he comes away with an enhanced border wall in critical areas, greater security using technology and border patrol in other areas, getting rid of the lottery system and/or chain immigration, and allows DACA kids who have been productive and stayed out of trouble for a long time to stay and become citizens, it would be a huge victory for him.

They are already here, some are probably already voting illegally, and they are productive.

So what's the major problem?

However, he would have made more progress than any other president in slowing down illegal immigration and other methods the democrats are using to change the demographics of the country and take power for 50 years. That's really a key point. I have economic reasons for thinking we should slow/reform immigration, but the political reason is a biggie unless you want 50 years of Pelosi and Obama.

Bu... but... but I thought he wasn't a politician. He was going to drain the swamp. ;)

Look, like I said I'm happy he isn't accomplishing the majority of his campaign promises. I just find it amazing the pivot his fan-bots do.

Nothing...

What you just described was the immigration platform of every Republican in the primary except Donald Trump.

We must not be observing the same people.

Every one of them was against spending money on the wall. A few may have hedged a little after they saw how popular the idea was with Trump's core, but none of them wanted any of it.

Most of them were for various forms of amnesty with very little in return on security or they wanted to grant amnesty first - which means they never would have gotten the security or other immigration reforms.

There are two different political approaches.

There are republicans that want to try to appeal to Hispanics and bring them into their tent.

There are republicans that think allowing this flood of illegals into the US and giving them amnesty will change the political climate for two generations and put democrats in complete control.

Trump wants to halt and even reverse some of it.

The rest of the republicans wanted to try to grow the tent and only moved a little to the right when they were getting their clock cleaned by Trump and the wall.

If he gets ANYTHING on the wall and security and reform he will be the only one that could have possibly done it because none of the others want it. They consider it as driving Hispanics away.

The people that loved him are rationalizing away the minor disappointments.

I think you absolutely hate the guy as much as any liberal or democrat out there and are not viewing anything related to him objectively. I don't mean that in an insulting way. It just happens when you despise someone. You only see the bad and spin the good negatively.

You'll have to find that out from the immigration hard-liners that he is about to throw under the bus.

We weren't.

None were Amnesty first.

Most were for a path to citizenship. Apparently Trump is now too..? Heightened border security and technology... literally all of them considered it top priority.. here:

Jeb Bush: Border security must come first in immigration reform.

But I digress what you wrote above as a major win for Trump sounds a helluva lot more like Jeb Bush than the guy who said he'd "round them up" and "ten feet higher."