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vikingpower73 03-24-2024 01:04 AM

Trip Handicapping
 
Trip Handicapping by Dan Illman
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Dan Illman's Trip Handicapping DVD? If anybody has the DVD would it be possible I can purchase it or trade for it? I tried amazon and ebay with no luck and DRF does not sell it anymore.. Thanks in advance.

Saratoga 03-24-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vikingpower73 (Post 2935546)
Trip Handicapping by Dan Illman
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Dan Illman's Trip Handicapping DVD? If anybody has the DVD would it be possible I can purchase it or trade for it? I tried amazon and ebay with no luck and DRF does not sell it anymore.. Thanks in advance.

posting this in multiple forums is frowned upon ..especially by newbies

Since Illman is still writing...try contacting people at DRF

DVD's don't have a good life shelf...try find some books by anyone on the subject

MJC922 03-24-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Saratoga (Post 2935561)
posting this in multiple forums is frowned upon ..especially by newbies

Since Illman is still writing...try contacting people at DRF

DVD's don't have a good life shelf...try find some books by anyone on the subject

You would think DRF would digitize and sell it over a stream. I'd like to watch it myself. I respect Dan's opinion. Something by Serling would be good too. I had the Beyer and Mellos trip videos on VHS many years ago (good stuff). They might still even be around someplace in an attic but the VHS media gets brittle after all of these years, probably would get chewed up right away if someone tries to play it.

classhandicapper 03-24-2024 03:00 PM

I have a copy of it somewhere, but I'm surprised you can't still get it via DRF. I'll send a note to Dan to see if it can still be ordered. If not I'll look around for my copy of it.

classhandicapper 03-24-2024 07:55 PM

DRF is not selling it anymore.

Contact Dan privately on Twitter @DRF_DanIllman and he said he should be able to get you a copy.

cj 03-24-2024 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MJC922 (Post 2935573)
You would think DRF would digitize and sell it over a stream. I'd like to watch it myself. I respect Dan's opinion. Something by Serling would be good too. I had the Beyer and Mellos trip videos on VHS many years ago (good stuff). They might still even be around someplace in an attic but the VHS media gets brittle after all of these years, probably would get chewed up right away if someone tries to play it.

Serling:


Robert Fischer 03-25-2024 12:18 AM

He's gotten a lot more attractive since his modest trips n traps days w/ Eric Donovan. 😍

Haha.

Also, = Saw Illman on a Laurel broadcast the other day. Thought that was cool. Illman's Twitter feed represents Maryland Racing, but it is a treat, to see him directly broadcast a card, and if that which he so wishes to participate w/ = very cool 😎.

Saratoga 03-25-2024 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2935664)

Only 2 videos on that channel.....went all out to "Learn" :lol::lol::lol:

CheckMark 03-25-2024 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2935664)

Hey CJ,

I saw on their website a while back that they were suppose to have you and Steve Byk do an episode.

Sucks that they didn’t go through with it. Would have been very informative for a lot of people here to see how you handicap a race using TFUS (including myself :) )

cj 03-25-2024 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CheckMark (Post 2935680)
Hey CJ,

I saw on their website a while back that they were suppose to have you and Steve Byk do an episode.

Sucks that they didn’t go through with it. Would have been very informative for a lot of people here to see how you handicap a race using TFUS (including myself :) )

Steve and I both did one and they were posted, but I don't know what happened to them.

MJC922 03-25-2024 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2935664)


Good video, thx. I had watched that once before and just now watched it again, it's good stuff, I was thinking more of a video though specific to trip handicapping standalone and when he really likes a horse almost strictly based upon a trip even if that's say only a couple of times per month these days I think presenting some events where that's the decisive reason might make for a good compilation. This video was more of the all-encompassing demonstration of handicapping a race and understandably I think coming up with some interesting stats that might be worked into the on-camera show is maybe more a necessary part of the process than it might otherwise would be.

denniswilliams 03-25-2024 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MJC922 (Post 2935762)
I was thinking more of a video though specific to trip handicapping standalone and when he really likes a horse almost strictly based upon a trip even if that's say only a couple of times per month these days I think presenting some events where that's the decisive reason might make for a good compilation.

Would there be cases like this for him? Seems to me, he's often stressed that there are no trips in slow races. So it's hard to believe he'd bet on trip alone. What I've observed on the show most recently, and it's not only from him, is identifying those horses that stand out in terms of race flow. The only one to stick around in a speed duel, etc. Very interesting stuff.

the little guy 03-25-2024 11:07 PM

Trips are about everything that happened in a race, not necessarily trouble. Being against a race flow is a "trip" or even the opposite being a good one. Generally, I think more people are more cognizant of these things than they were a decade ago. Certainly not all races are won because of how they were run, but some are, and more so on the grass.

CheckMark 03-26-2024 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2935691)
Steve and I both did one and they were posted, but I don't know what happened to them.

Dang that’s too bad that they are not up on that channel.

Would love to see yours and Steve’s work!

MJC922 03-27-2024 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2935794)
Trips are about everything that happened in a race, not necessarily trouble. Being against a race flow is a "trip" or even the opposite being a good one. Generally, I think more people are more cognizant of these things than they were a decade ago. Certainly not all races are won because of how they were run, but some are, and more so on the grass.

Not to go off topic, but in the video linked above you mentioned someone you knew who left an impression when it came to the money management side of the game. Is that person still around? I was just wondering if the person was ever interviewed and/or authored anything along those lines.


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