Backgound Checks
 

Should background checks be required prior to owning a gun?

I think this is an interesting question as do others.

FYI voting is usually considered a privilege and not a "right".

Mahalo!!

Check this weeks releases from your state prison. Ask yourself if you would want some or all of them to be able to own a firearm.

Funny, but that's not what your poll is asking.

Good point

That background check already exists.

The real question is do you believe background checks be expanded?

Expanded to where? A questionable text? or possible mental illness? Define the limits to the expansion and I will give you a answer.

Any of the above. Mental illness disclosures would be a violation the right to privacy too. A questionable text would violate Due Process. In addition to eroding the "right" to own and possess a firearm.

A lot of rights are involved in this issue.

Felony convictions are the most common reason for the gun background check system to reject an applicant, resulting in 865,910 denials during the 21 years that NICS has been in operation. More than 189,000 fugitives, 212,000 domestic offenders, and 148,000 unlawful drug users have also been blocked. The bar for denying someone on mental health grounds is very high, requiring that a person has been declared unsound or involuntarily confined to a psychiatric institution by a court or other authority. Fewer than 43,000 people have been denied under this criterion.

https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun...ck-nics-guide/

These types of checks are Constitutional as they do not violate Due Process or privacy laws.

So, make a point other than that.

You’re kidding right? You think they can’t get a gun because they cannot pass a background check?

Nothing stops the criminals from getting guns.

Never forget it

I voted for gun ownership only.
I do support having to show proof of who you are in order to vote - that is not a violation of my right. If I am a citizen and legally allowed to vote, I have no problem proving who I am.

But background checks will never solve the problem.
What is the number of NRA members involved in mass shootings?
I think we need a much more comprehensive approach, not just one that feels good, which is mostly what liberal strive for.

I understand this, but it's not the point. Where there is a will, there is a way. You, I, or anyone will not be able to stop someone from obtaining a gun, if they want one. It does not matter how many restrictions you put out there. Same thing with drugs. Pot, is illegal in my state. Do you think think that means it is hard to get? And I live in a town with less than 1500 people in it. Laws matter to me, not to criminals.

Okay, you say background checks do not stop people with bad intentions to obtain a gun. In other words background checks are worthless as a preventative measure. Why have a useless preventive measure, erode a Constitutional "right", by treating a "right " like a State granted privilege? Why give the State to the power to legislate, where no power exists?

I don't understand the argument for background checks, especially when its supporters admit these measures do not work and that such support let's the State usurp powers it should not have. Especially, that such expanded regulations begin treating privacy and due process "rights" as State granted privileges.

The poll is an example of the fallacy of false dilemma.

Classic example of feel good legislation

I know you are referring to federal law but in NY, people have had their pistol permits revoked simply from having been prescribed Chantix to help quit smoking. One of the side effects of Chantix is depression. They can usually get their permit back but not without a good lawyer and a lot of cost.

Move along.....nothing to see here
 

Why would anyone need more comprehensive background checks
when it's totally clear to so many that it would serve no purpose?
There is no reason whatsoever to seek any change for improvement.

Meanwhile, we can just fill up the popcorn bowl, crack open a cold one,
sit back and watch the net mass shooting in glorious technicolor - 3D even.

We don't need no stinking change........:rolleyes:

Now you’re getting. Nothing will change. With or without new laws

They want your guns! Period. Francis was the only one who fessed up and look at him now.:D

I'd make a change. I'd put a stop to all gun-free zones forthwith...then, recheck the current 97.8% mass shooting stats in about a year or two.

So you would shut down 'gun free zones' where 97.8% of mass shooting occur? Intriguing yet logical.

And concealed carry is a must.
If you do not know who is armed, you will be less likely to try something.

Gun Free zones are one of the most stupid ideas in the history of man.

School systems upgrading security is the fix

I don't know about that Tom, GMI makes a real sexy holster for your .50 Cal