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sammy the sage 05-20-2018 08:33 AM

Will the connections of Audible
 
the SAME connections as Justify....(well except for the trainer of course)...call an Audible and bail on the Belmont...seeing as the triple crown in play....or will they do a Quip...and I'm disgusted with how Quip was treated...shoulda just held him out...

GMB@BP 05-20-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sammy the sage (Post 2319319)
the SAME connections as Justify....(well except for the trainer of course)...call an Audible and bail on the Belmont...seeing as the triple crown in play....or will they do a Quip...and I'm disgusted with how Quip was treated...shoulda just held him out...

If it was my horses I sure wouldnt run them against each other, make zero sense.

upthecreek 05-20-2018 10:49 AM

TVG'S Dave Weaver stated after the race He knew for a fact Audible was running in Belmont

Lemon Drop Husker 05-20-2018 11:46 AM

If Audible is healthy and ready to run, it would be a disservice to racing to hold him out of running in the Belmont.



Either way, I think we get a full field to take a shot at Justify in 3 weeks. He is a fantastic horse, but I'm sure many feel he is more than vulnerable at 12 panels after his Kentucky Derby and Preakness races in which he was greatly extended and challenged.



Should be a fantastic Belmont with a ton of great betting interest.

GMB@BP 05-20-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2319421)
If Audible is healthy and ready to run, it would be a disservice to racing to hold him out of running in the Belmont.



Either way, I think we get a full field to take a shot at Justify in 3 weeks. He is a fantastic horse, but I'm sure many feel he is more than vulnerable at 12 panels after his Kentucky Derby and Preakness races in which he was greatly extended and challenged.



Should be a fantastic Belmont with a ton of great betting interest.

nobody remembers 70 years ago that Calument held another highly regarded 3yo out of the triple crown cause they already had another.

And they wont remember this case as well.

I dont think Audible beats Justify, Justify is the better horse.

What beats Justify is distance and too much to do in a short amount of time with very little foundation.

PaceAdvantage 05-24-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2319421)
If Audible is healthy and ready to run, it would be a disservice to racing to hold him out of running in the Belmont.

Sorry I'm late to this...but seriously?

If you had a horse on the verge of winning the Triple Crown, one of the rarest accomplishments in sport...a place in history forever and some mighty fine stud fees down the road...you'd do everything in your power to put horses YOU OWN, that might have a shot at winning the Belmont, you'd put that horse, or horses, in the race to try and kill your own Triple Crown chances?

NO YOU FREAKIN' WOULDN'T.

NOBODY WOULD.

BlueChip@DRF 05-24-2018 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2319486)
What beats Justify is distance and too much to do in a short amount of time with very little foundation.

Sounded like pre-Derby talk. :)

Robert Fischer 05-24-2018 02:54 PM

If they try to win with Audible = He will at best run a belated 2nd.

If they 'ride to instructions' in fear of accidentally beating Justify = same result...

Audible is simply not capable of finishing ahead of an otherwise winning race from Justify.

However, you have to think that the connections may not know this with the same confidence that I do. They will then either skip the race, or ride to instructions. If Audible were to beat an otherwise winning race from Justify, it would be a significant loss for their ownership.

letswastemoney 05-24-2018 09:53 PM

I want Audible to run to prove he'll be just fine at 1 1/2 miles. But now I wonder whether or not they'd throw in the towel on purpose if he did run.

Lemon Drop Husker 05-24-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2321080)
Sorry I'm late to this...but seriously?

If you had a horse on the verge of winning the Triple Crown, one of the rarest accomplishments in sport...a place in history forever and some mighty fine stud fees down the road...you'd do everything in your power to put horses YOU OWN, that might have a shot at winning the Belmont, you'd put that horse, or horses, in the race to try and kill your own Triple Crown chances?

NO YOU FREAKIN' WOULDN'T.

NOBODY WOULD.


They sold his stud fees for a cool $60 million today. ;)

Grits 05-25-2018 12:58 PM

O.U.T. And, of course, this is no surprise to anyone.

clicknow 05-25-2018 07:46 PM

I don't think Audible could even run 2nd at 1-1/2 miles, so him being out of the race wouldn't affect my wagering in the least. The only thing I could give him is that he may be some kinda "freak" who could pull it off by truly outrunning his pedigree, but I seriously doubt it.

Run him in the Travers and see how he does at 10F again against whoever shows up for that one.

Robert Fischer 05-25-2018 09:54 PM

Audible got a pretty good trip in the Derby but was legit 3rd best (which is really good). It gets a little foggier/less-literal when you compare 4th-6th. Bravazo ran as well as Instilled Regard and My Boy Jack, perhaps slightly better. I thought Good Magic ran significantly better than Audible, and it would be a reach to try to rank Bravazo ahead of Audible, although it may be closer than GM/Audible.

Audible looks like a top-tier horse when he runs through the stretch. He looks as good as a Justify or a Good Magic or a Bolt D'Oro.

I thought he'd get buried in traffic in the Kentucky Derby. Tactical speed can be a weakness for Audible. He had a great ride in the Holy Bull. He had a dream trip in the Florida Derby. Audible got a good inside trip with a good setup in the Derby but I give him credit. I think it was a fairly formful, literal run. :ThmbUp:

I'm not sure what I think he'll do going forward. I think he'll take some money in the Travers vs. Ax Man. I guess I'll grudgingly have to include him regardless of not being much value and having some concerns about his trip.

boys at tosconova 05-26-2018 12:50 AM

lol @ winstar for making horse racing great again by sandbagging.

. sports betting should hurt the horses even more as well

Tom 05-26-2018 09:13 AM

HRN email last night says Audible will not be heard from in the Belmont - low energy levels.

Hit the Pletcher Wall?


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