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Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-24-2019, 04:21 PM

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Posted By Tom

Wow! I owe them an apology for another post...

Wow!
I owe them an apology for another post elsewhere! :blush:

Was it really that much faster than the Older Stake?

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-24-2019, 12:10 PM

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Posted By Tom

Good thing they didn't do it Friday! :lol: I...

Good thing they didn't do it Friday! :lol:

I see a lot of Beyers get changed after the fact - especially at NYRA.

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-24-2019, 11:48 AM

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Posted By Tom

Interesting, the Mineshaft, on Risen Star Day,...

Interesting, the Mineshaft, on Risen Star Day, was the other race broken out by the Beyer guys. Slower than both he Risen Star and the 3yoF stake by almost a full second off slow early pace. I just...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-24-2019, 10:22 AM

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Posted By Tom

78 Beyer. When I converted it all to Quirn, his...

78 Beyer.
When I converted it all to Quirn, his race came back 102-104, slightly to the late side, and the Risen Star came back 108-108. I actually gave the race an 88, in line with the Risen Star...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-23-2019, 07:10 PM

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Posted By Tom

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-23-2019, 06:25 PM

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Posted By Tom

Case in point - LA Derby today. The winner, :5:...

Case in point - LA Derby today.
The winner, :5: at 22-1 was one where the fig manipulated with byh the Beyer guy. If you used TFUS number - 20, his MSW fig was good enough to contend today. Beyer ...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-23-2019, 10:56 AM

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Posted By Tom

Nice thing about doing this is I get to see how...

Nice thing about doing this is I get to see how the Beyers for a certain day were made. FG, for example, to me, the either fig maker for FG is terrible or the track has no clue how to time races....

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-22-2019, 04:47 PM

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Posted By Tom

For a few tracks. NYRA, Tam, OP, FG, GP (as...

For a few tracks.
NYRA, Tam, OP, FG, GP (as needed for shippers)

I use the Beyer variant (or an adjusted one).
I use Dave Schwartz's pars, and turn the Beyer into a Quirin and the raw times into...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-22-2019, 10:36 AM

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Posted By Tom

IMHO, making a separate pace variant is...

IMHO, making a separate pace variant is essential. Using a portion of the final time variant will not be as accurate most of the time.

That said, I can't always do that.
When Aqu has one 9...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

03-19-2019, 10:18 AM

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Posted By Tom

Do you find a variation at Aqu, 9 furlongs, where...

Do you find a variation at Aqu, 9 furlongs, where the first part of the race is run over a section of the track that is seldom used? I sometimes get rather high four furlong variants that seem out of...

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