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Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-30-2017, 09:16 AM

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It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

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Posted By Fager Fan

I gave one idea which I didn't think was a bad...

I gave one idea which I didn't think was a bad one: follow up on this with an open invitation that the next track which cuts to x, x, and x will get the handicapper's support, and do the same you...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 06:01 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

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Posted By Fager Fan

if you want to put it that way, since when has...

if you want to put it that way, since when has gambling been anything but a vice? You can't embarrass me about not gambling away my hard-earned money.

I'm sorry if you can't deal with someone...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 03:27 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

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Posted By Fager Fan

I am a self-admitted non-gambler, in the sense...

I am a self-admitted non-gambler, in the sense that I don't bet what I don't mind losing. How that compares to others here, I have no idea. I bet all the handicappers here aren't whales or do it...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 03:18 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

How much do those other forms of gambling pay to...

How much do those other forms of gambling pay to ADWs? And what is their overhead?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 02:34 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

I missed it. Someone listed one pool, and...

I missed it. Someone listed one pool, and another is crediting HANA for the success of KY downs.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 02:08 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Ok then, why aren't you boycotting the tracks...

Ok then, why aren't you boycotting the tracks that give rebates instead?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 02:06 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

What on earth are you talking about? What new...

What on earth are you talking about? What new trainers training up at nearby farms? Even WinStar, with their state of the art facility, isn't training horses up to races there. There are basically...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 01:59 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Has it paid the track's bills? You all say...

Has it paid the track's bills?

You all say it's a no-brainer, except you have few to no examples of it working. Anyone have the list of tracks/meets who tried it, and the end result? To me, the...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 12:34 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Isn't that sort of a problem in your arguments...

Isn't that sort of a problem in your arguments about lowering takeout?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 12:31 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Um, no. That's not how it works. Cut the purses...

Um, no. That's not how it works. Cut the purses in half, and then you'd just see half the stables not make the pilgrimage to KEE, which by the way is rather a pain in the ass with all the shipping...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 11:23 AM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Can someone please list all the times where...

Can someone please list all the times where decreased takeout resulted in a boom for that track/meet? Thanks.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-29-2017, 11:22 AM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Please do explain how cutting purses in half will...

Please do explain how cutting purses in half will lead to increased field sizes and better racing.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-27-2017, 03:14 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

I well understand the math above. However, I...

I well understand the math above. However, I think that maybe you all put too much emphasis on takeout when instead it should be the return on your bet, which ultimately means the odds on a horse...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-27-2017, 11:25 AM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

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Posted By Fager Fan

Isn't the best value the good odds on a tote...

Isn't the best value the good odds on a tote board on a horse you like, regardless of takeout?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-17-2017, 06:57 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

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Posted By Fager Fan

You don't see this as an issue? Let's see,...

You don't see this as an issue?

Let's see, same price for a superior product, yet the customer's unhappy.

Maybe KEE and others just think that with handicappers, you're damned if you don't and...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

10-12-2017, 07:33 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

I lost faith in KEE when I found out we don't...

I lost faith in KEE when I found out we don't really know who owns it or receives money (through salaries or any other way) from KEE.

As much as I dislike Churchill, at least we know who is who. ...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

09-14-2017, 08:39 AM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

The odds were 1-9 that you'd be along to make a...

The odds were 1-9 that you'd be along to make a snide comment about me. Try being less predictable and actually add something meaningful to a discussion.

I'll be betting KEE this meet to cancel...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

09-14-2017, 08:36 AM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Poin, I appreciate your post. Thanks.

Poin, I appreciate your post. Thanks.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

09-14-2017, 01:08 AM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

Casinos make most of their profit from things...

Casinos make most of their profit from things other than gambling, like hotel rooms, shows, drinks and food, etc., all things that one can only do by actually GOING to the casino. You guys want to...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

09-13-2017, 09:39 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

The tracks are selling a product. Most products...

The tracks are selling a product. Most products have a 100% markup. What is racing's?

It's always interesting to me to hear gamblers grousing. I've yet to hear one, including Andy who...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

09-12-2017, 08:12 PM

Replies: 405

It's on! The Official Boycott Keeneland Thread.

Views: 62,383

Posted By Fager Fan

You weren't thinking too much about price/value...

You weren't thinking too much about price/value if you ordered a new one.

:p

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