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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Casinos make most of their profit from things other than gambling, like hotel rooms, shows, drinks and food, etc., all things that one can only do by actually GOING to the casino. You guys want to bet from the comfort of your jammies at home on the computer, most of the time through ADWs that go to profit some third party more than the track/sport.
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Actually many casinos are making their profits online. See
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0cca4f42d9d5d
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
People act in their best interests and racing is no different. Alright then, the tracks are acting in their best interest by raising prices.
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I have no issue with tracks or any business making decisions that they believe are in their own best interests. But those decisions don't happen in a vacuum. The decisions can/will affect the behavior of their customers. Time will tell if the decisions prove to be a benefit or detriment. But for me, my decision, to quote Roberto Duran, was No Mas!
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Handicappers want it all. They want to have a voice and a seat at the table, yet they don't give a damn (as you just stated) about the sport as a whole. Handicappers fuss about paying to park, or paying admission, or paying a high dollar on a big day, or paying for the program, or the price of the track food. So you rarely as a whole help the sport profit from all the aforementioned items, then fuss about the takeout on the funds you push thru some third party ADW. Handicappers probably have a bigger voice in racing than anywhere I can think of, they even get an Eclipse (which is absurd), for being nothing more than a customer.
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Really? I am just a customer. If not for customers would any business exist? I am not just a customer of racing I am a customer of hundreds of things. Businesses are created to fill the needs and wants of people. Those that are unable to do so at an agreeable price soon become former businesses.
ADWs were not created by horseplayers and horseplayers did not negotiate the deals between the tracks and the ADWs. I am not sure what voice you refer to that handicappers have but it sure isn't one that makes business decisions. Their voice is what they bet and how they bet and basically how they act as a customer.
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It seems to me that if you're a group who intends to make inroads, then you desperately need to understand and have a really good grasp on the numbers and what the tracks have to deal with to keep afloat. Only then can you know if your demands, wishes and desires are reasonable or unreasonable. And really, maybe try actually giving a damn about the sport and supporting it. One really easy way is to at least use only industry-owned ADWs.
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Should I have a good grasp of the numbers for grocery stores, gas stations, clothing stores, etc.? They all provide products at a price that they believe is in their best interest. I will buy their products if their product and pricing meet my needs. You seem to suggest that a racetrack should operate differently. What you are reading and witnessing is a business whose products are no longer desired by many at the price offered.
