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Old 07-16-2018, 04:29 PM   #96
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I have an AmWager account as well.

I can say, without a doubt, that I have WAY MORE problems on AmWager than I have had on TS. It's not even close.

For the past two weeks or so, I'd click on the VIDEO button, and get error after error, until I refreshed the page. Then it would work again.

I've had other, countless problems with the user interface that could only be cured with a refresh of the entire page. From the results screens, to data displays getting "stuck"...all sorts of little problems from the start.

In fact, I would say I have had the exact OPPOSITE experience that you have had when pitting TS vs. AmWager in a heads-up battle of who is more reliable.

Now I'm not saying AmWager isn't a good choice for ADW. They do offer some nice rebates for those in certain states and their conditional betting system is the best I've ever seen...plus their batch wagering works

But they certainly are NOT without their glitches and problems.
I agree with you that they do have their fair share of errors -- especially on the video locking up. Sometimes the bet confirmation box just keeps spinning.

I can overlook all of those because of the rebates. I get your point that you get lower rebates because of source market fees. That's a bummer because the serious players that you have to compete with will set up operations in a jurisdiction where they can get the highest rebates.

I may not be nearly as good of a bettor as you, but I can make more than you at the end of year simply because of rebates.

It is unfair to horseplayers to be treated this way.

It's reasons like these that HANA was started. Unfortunately, these are political problems. In order for HANA to be really successful they will probably have to get more political.

For me, it was easier to stop betting U.S. races and look overseas for better opportunities.

I love the French racing where the jockeys ride on the backs of trotters. It looks ridiculous the first time you see it, but the fields are large and there is so much value. Why would anyone ever want to bet a steady diet of 5 horse races at Beaten Downs on a weekday afternoon when there are 14 horse fields in nearly every race in Hong Kong or steeplechases with 25 or 30 horses in England?

One more thing... as far as there being two threads on TS -- there are more like 7 or 8. The first 3 alone are about TS. 5 out of the first 7 are about TS! That's good and bad. It's good because it means they are a big player. Good for them. It's bad because it shows they have a lot of problems.

Last edited by highnote; 07-16-2018 at 04:31 PM.
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