#FreeTommyRobinson

[woodtoo]

Is Britain lost to Islam?

Instantly jailed for speaking truth!

[mrhorseplayer]

heard this on Savage Nation last week first tine I listened to that show for at least a year, and hes banned from britain for something he said lol

[Tom]

Has Britain ever been anything other than a S*hole?
We left them because they were scumbags and they spent most of their history dominating the third world for profit.

I think you owe ISLAM an apology for comparing them.

All you need know about them you hears at the Epsom Derby today -

"Your Queen, My Queen, Lords and Ladies -" more like pimps and whores with the Wicked Witch of the West in charge.

[snappit]

Hi, I'm from England. I've been watching the forum for quite a while due to my interest in American racing, I've also found myself reading the general forum due to an interest in politics. I never thought my first post would be in this section but feel I have to post to rebut previous posts and some of the nonsense on twitter etc, mainly from America, which is ignorant of the facts of this case.

First of all let me post a bit of information about Mr Robinson himself. For a start his name isn't Tommy Robinson it is Steven Yaxley–Lennon, apart from Robinson he has several other alias's. He has several convictions and terms of imprisonment for violence and assault, mortgage fraud, he was also imprisoned for entering the United States on a false passport. Last year he was convicted for contempt of court and given a prison sentence suspended for 18 months. He is a former member of the British National Party, a white supremacist, anti gay organisation which has also promoted anti-semitism and holocaust denial. He left and later became leader of another organisation the English Defence League. He denies he is racist or anti-semitic but he is well known for promoting what he thinks are the evils of the Quran. He also appears to go racing from time to time and if you google Tommy Robinson Ascot you will find videos of him violently attacking a man at Ascot last year. A very nice man as you can see.

Now to this case. Last year he was convicted of contempt of court after filming defendants at court , calling them paedophiles etc before they had been convicted of any offence. He could have been sent to prison but instead the judge decided to suspend the sentence, this means if he committed an offence within the suspension period he could be sent to prison. Not only did he commit another offence but he again decided to turn up at another trial of alleged Muslim sex offenders, film them, try and question them etc while steaming live on facebook. This case was subject to reporting restrictions which means the media and others are not allowed to report details of it until after the trial is finished, this is to ensure a fair trial takes place and the jury isn't influenced by opinion and only go on what they hear in court, it is also there to protect the victims of any alleged offence. What is important in this case is there are three separate trials taking place with a number of different defendants linked to the same case. Reporting on this one before it concluded could cause the trial to collapse which means guilty people could walk free. This could result in total collapse or a retrial which would put the victims through enormous stress and cost a huge amount of money. It could also prejudice the other trials. Contrary to what you may have heard the court hearings were not in secret but members of the public and journalists attended but were prevented from talking about the case until the trial / trials were all completed. This is pure common sense. After Mr Lennon was arrested and brought before the judge and, this is important, he PLEADED GUILTY.. The judge had no choice but to invoke his suspended sentence and imprison him. In fact the judge was quite lenient as he could have been imprisoned for two years.

This case is not about restricting freedom of speech it is about upholding the law and ensuring fair trials. Ironically his supporters often bang on about immigrants obeying our laws, something which they clearly feel doesn't apply to Mr Lennon.

Mr Lennon's supporters say he was only exposing Muslim Paedophiles and saying their activities were being covered up, if this is the case why were they in court? They say this is for the victims yet were prepared to see the case collapse which meant any guilty parties could walk free. The most important people in this are the victims and they deserve justice. A senior member of of the English Defence League was recently jailed for 17 years for sexual abuse of a ten year old girl, another was convicted on child pornography charges. Did Mr Lennon turn up at court and film and abuse them?

So no he wasn't instantly jailed for speaking the truth and he hasn't been banned from Britain for something he said. He was jailed for contempt of court violating a suspended sentence for the same offence.

For those who really are interested in the facts you may want to read this

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/...ommy-robinson/

[horses4courses]

.........in every box of Frosted Flakes

[classhandicapper]

Mr Lennon's supporters say he was only exposing Muslim Paedophiles and saying their activities were being covered up, if this is the case why were they in court?

I don't know anything about Tommy Robinson, but I'll give you some background.

There is an immigration debate going on in the US that's very similar to the debate in parts of western Europe.

In order to make the case against almost unrestricted immigration in the US, the anti immigration forces will often point to crime statistics, terrorism risks, and costs elsewhere in the world where there has been a huge influx of immigrants. Cases of gang rape, terrorism, crime, no go zones etc..trickle into the US from non mainstream sources. But most of these cases do NOT get reported in what one would consider an unbiased fashion by the mainstream media because most media sources are left leaning and PRO open borders.

So when people in the US hear that Tommy Robinson is being jailed for reporting on pedophilia, they set aside anything else he might believe or have done and believe this is another example of western governments and media trying to suppress information on criminal activity related to immigration.

It's really that simple.

If there are fair trial concerns, that would be a valid reason for a temporary ban on reporting, but the general pattern of blacking this kind of stuff out is apparent enough to generate skepticism.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by snappit

Hi, I'm from England. I've been watching the forum for quite a while due to my interest in American racing, I've also found myself reading the general forum due to an interest in politics. I never thought my first post would be in this section but feel I have to post to rebut previous posts and some of the nonsense on twitter etc, mainly from America, which is ignorant of the facts of this case.

First of all let me post a bit of information about Mr Robinson himself. For a start his name isn't Tommy Robinson it is Steven Yaxley–Lennon, apart from Robinson he has several other alias's. He has several convictions and terms of imprisonment for violence and assault, mortgage fraud, he was also imprisoned for entering the United States on a false passport. Last year he was convicted for contempt of court and given a prison sentence suspended for 18 months. He is a former member of the British National Party, a white supremacist, anti gay organisation which has also promoted anti-semitism and holocaust denial. He left and later became leader of another organisation the English Defence League. He denies he is racist or anti-semitic but he is well known for promoting what he thinks are the evils of the Quran. He also appears to go racing from time to time and if you google Tommy Robinson Ascot you will find videos of him violently attacking a man at Ascot last year. A very nice man as you can see.

Now to this case. Last year he was convicted of contempt of court after filming defendants at court , calling them paedophiles etc before they had been convicted of any offence. He could have been sent to prison but instead the judge decided to suspend the sentence, this means if he committed an offence within the suspension period he could be sent to prison. Not only did he commit another offence but he again decided to turn up at another trial of alleged Muslim sex offenders, film them, try and question them etc while steaming live on facebook. This case was subject to reporting restrictions which means the media and others are not allowed to report details of it until after the trial is finished, this is to ensure a fair trial takes place and the jury isn't influenced by opinion and only go on what they hear in court, it is also there to protect the victims of any alleged offence. What is important in this case is there are three separate trials taking place with a number of different defendants linked to the same case. Reporting on this one before it concluded could cause the trial to collapse which means guilty people could walk free. This could result in total collapse or a retrial which would put the victims through enormous stress and cost a huge amount of money. It could also prejudice the other trials. Contrary to what you may have heard the court hearings were not in secret but members of the public and journalists attended but were prevented from talking about the case until the trial / trials were all completed. This is pure common sense. After Mr Lennon was arrested and brought before the judge and, this is important, he PLEADED GUILTY.. The judge had no choice but to invoke his suspended sentence and imprison him. In fact the judge was quite lenient as he could have been imprisoned for two years.

This case is not about restricting freedom of speech it is about upholding the law and ensuring fair trials. Ironically his supporters often bang on about immigrants obeying our laws, something which they clearly feel doesn't apply to Mr Lennon.

Mr Lennon's supporters say he was only exposing Muslim Paedophiles and saying their activities were being covered up, if this is the case why were they in court? They say this is for the victims yet were prepared to see the case collapse which meant any guilty parties could walk free. The most important people in this are the victims and they deserve justice. A senior member of of the English Defence League was recently jailed for 17 years for sexual abuse of a ten year old girl, another was convicted on child pornography charges. Did Mr Lennon turn up at court and film and abuse them?

So no he wasn't instantly jailed for speaking the truth and he hasn't been banned from Britain for something he said. He was jailed for contempt of court violating a suspended sentence for the same offence.

For those who really are interested in the facts you may want to read this

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-




tommy-robinson/

I do not believe for a second, of the truthfulness of your post. You did your best at making this guy a complete racist. Also knocking Americans. What do you people say "RUBBISH" Good luck. Muslim activities are being covered up. Americans have a great ability to think things through. Nice try. Snippie

[elysiantraveller]

Zero facts presented to refute this guys post about this particular topic.

Bathe in the #MAGA!!!!

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Zero facts presented to refute this guys post about this particular topic.

Bathe in the #MAGA!!!!

To Bad!

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Too* Bad!

FTFY...

Made my point.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

FTFY...

Made my point.

Great.

[Native Texan III]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Is Britain lost to Islam?

Instantly jailed for speaking truth!

No UK is doing just fine with its wonderful Muslim citizens.


He was not jailed for speaking the truth - he was jailed for Contempt of Court.


He admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial via a live stream on his Facebook page.

[Tom]

That is called speaking the truth.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Is Britain lost to Islam?

No, it is lost to the British.

[snappit]

Originally Posted by chrisl

I do not believe for a second, of the truthfulness of your post. You did your best at making this guy a complete racist. Also knocking Americans. What do you people say "RUBBISH" Good luck. Muslim activities are being covered up. Americans have a great ability to think things through. Nice try. Snippie

Exactly which bit of my post don't you think is true? everything I have said is fact. He broke the law and was given a suspended sentence, he then broke the law again. Fact.

Does our system always get everything right? no of course not but over here we take pride that our justice system is fair and everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty. His actions could clearly have resulted in a miss trial and where would that leave the victims if the people in court are actually guilty? Reporting restrictions (which are removed when the trial is over) are there for a reason. Two years ago I was on jury service. We were given strict instructions by the judge as to what we could not do, for instance we were not allowed to even google for details about the defendant. You don't even get told about previous convictions because that may influence how we think about the case in hand. Even now I am not allowed to disclose what went on in the jury room.


Classhandicapper, interesting what you say and some fair points. I obviously don't know your press but ours is the opposite and generally right leaning. The Daily Mail is probably our most right wing paper, some may even say far right with continuous rants about immigrants etc but, even they came out with a piece saying it was right to jail him.

This is apiece from The Washington Examiner and I assure you that the author Dan Hannan is one of our more right wing politicians. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ongs-in-prison worth noting what the judge in his first contempt hearing said.