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04-10-2018, 10:25 PM
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I would question whether Justify is even qualified to be Mendelssohns work partner ...
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04-10-2018, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneF
I would question whether Justify is even qualified to be Mendelssohns work partner ...
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Now that is ridiculous.
Justify ran a 140 pace figure easily and held on nicely in the lane.
Mendelssohn will be looking at Baffert's Boy's Butt all the way around.
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04-10-2018, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Now that is ridiculous.
Justify ran a 140 pace figure easily and held on nicely in the lane.
Mendelssohn will be looking at Baffert's Boy's Butt all the way around.
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Justify hit the 3/4 pole a half second slower than the Oaks fillies yet I’m supposed to buy a hot pace? Regardless, he did come home fast which to me is more important.
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04-10-2018, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by menifee
These are the odds I’m seeing in the off-shore pools.
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Link?
Off-shore where?
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04-10-2018, 11:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
He's a very good horse, but Meydan was very kind to speed that day.
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I followed dubai the whole meet, the dirt course was speed dominant the whole meet.
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04-11-2018, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Now that is ridiculous.
Justify ran a 140 pace figure easily and held on nicely in the lane.
Mendelssohn will be looking at Baffert's Boy's Butt all the way around.
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at this point I am chalking up a new poster with 50 posts who makes moronic statements as just Derby month trolling.
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04-11-2018, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by f2tornado
Justify hit the 3/4 pole a half second slower than the Oaks fillies yet I’m supposed to buy a hot pace? Regardless, he did come home fast which to me is more important.
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Maybe its lost on you but you realize they did run different distances which alters the pace ratings for the time? And yes it was a fast pace in the Oaks......which fell apart!
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04-11-2018, 12:09 AM
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part of me thinks mendy and justy will be part of a speed duel involving 1 or 2 others.
maybe it's just my man crush for audible
sorry it has to be said
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04-11-2018, 12:51 AM
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How Audible pulled up after Florida Derby and JV jumping off for VR screams bad things to me.
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04-11-2018, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by menifee
How Audible pulled up after Florida Derby and JV jumping off for VR screams bad things to me.
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With so much talk about this speed dual that is going to happen Mendelssohn may be loose on the lead. I have seen stranger things in big races.
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04-11-2018, 12:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
With so much talk about this speed dual that is going to happen Mendelssohn may be loose on the lead. I have seen stranger things in big races.
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i didn;t know there was a bunch of talk regarding this
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04-11-2018, 01:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menifee
How Audible pulled up after Florida Derby and JV jumping off for VR screams bad things to me.
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until i see confirmation of something wrong it means nothing to me. the horse literally moves like the movie version of sea biscuit or secretariat. no other horse has that claim. even mendy or justy. and audible can layoff the lead
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04-11-2018, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Maybe its lost on you but you realize they did run different distances which alters the pace ratings for the time? And yes it was a fast pace in the Oaks......which fell apart!
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Maybe it's lost on you the fillies in the Santa Ysabel, Santa Margarita, and The Santa Anita Oaks all at the same track during the same meet hit the 6F pole faster than Justify. 1:12.6 was modest at best. Feel free to take your favorite speed numbers hook line and sinker. If they worked so well every race then Andrew Beyer would be 30-0 picking the Derby winner instead of 0-30.
Last edited by f2tornado; 04-11-2018 at 09:02 AM.
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04-11-2018, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
With so much talk about this speed dual that is going to happen Mendelssohn may be loose on the lead. I have seen stranger things in big races.
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Mendelssohn does not have to have the lead. In the race before the Dubai race, he was content to lay off the lead and make a stretch run. He also has a turf background which shies away from speed unless it is loose on the lead speed which Mendelssohn does not have.
I believe the connections saw how the Dubai track all season long (not just the night of the UAE Derby) was speed favoring and opted to take to the front.
I just do not see how a horse who made his career debut in mid February is going to be able to get 10 furlongs in early May. My thoughts have nothing to do with any curse, but rather based on a proper foundation and development of a horse.
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