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Blenheim · 05-30-2019, 08:19 PM

Casse: War of Will . . . Won't Breeze Before Belmont

Suff · 05-30-2019, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blenheim

Casse: War of Will . . . Won't Breeze Before Belmont

So its good? lol

Robert Fischer · 05-31-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Suff

So its good? lol

It's all guesses for me. I 'go with' the trainer, and whatever they like.

If a horse does throw down a strong work, that takes some of the doubt out of it for me. There is time enough between the Preakness for a horse to rebound or regress.

reckless · 05-31-2019, 02:36 PM

I must be dating myself but I remember when trainers of Belmont Stakes hopefuls would often breeze their horses one mile as their main work for the race.

clicknow · 06-01-2019, 04:08 AM

Sorry, but I don't like it. I deduct points for lack of a breeze, regardless of how they ran in preakness and derby.

Tom · 06-01-2019, 04:44 PM

Here is a sure sign - WOW will win!
Gabby Gaudet is interviewing the handler on TVG, and in the background, WOW grabs the rake in his mouth and starts raking up the area outside his stall! He is getting ready for a lot of attention and wants to look neat! Either that or Casse is one heck of a strict trainer!!!

Blenheim · 06-01-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Here is a sure sign - WOW will win!
Gabby Gaudet is interviewing the handler on TVG, and in the background, WOW grabs the rake in his mouth and starts raking up the area outside his stall! He is getting ready for a lot of attention and wants to look neat! Either that or Casse is one heck of a strict trainer!!!

I've read Stringhalt may cause aggressive behavior. Interesting the disease may be beneficial . . .

razorback5 · 06-01-2019, 05:55 PM

Easy toss from the win spot for me. No work, no win.

f2tornado · 06-03-2019, 06:16 PM

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Easy toss from the win spot for me. No work, no win.

Tough to toss the horse but another quirky small sample size stat shows horses not working since last race are 0-7 in the Belmont since 2000. It is one race where an experienced rider should be a plus and Tyler Gaffalione is riding in his first (along with Manny Franco on Spinoff).

Favorites are only hitting the winner's circle at a 20% clip over the past 15 years so I'll shop for an upset. Sir Winston offers some intrigue.

Wabash · 06-03-2019, 08:29 PM

3rd race in 5 weeks is biggest concern for me. And now no works just makes me think he is a tired horse. I don’t think he hits the board.

LemonSoupKid · 06-03-2019, 08:53 PM

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3rd race in 5 weeks is biggest concern for me. And now no works just makes me think he is a tired horse. I don’t think he hits the board.

On pure probability (given he should be top 3 choices), this is the easiest toss I've seen in a long while

Wabash · 06-03-2019, 09:17 PM

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On pure probability (given he should be top 3 choices), this is the easiest toss I've seen in a long while

I thought Improbable was an easy toss in Preakness based on same reasoning. 3rd race in 5 weeks.

boys at tosconova · 06-03-2019, 10:16 PM

definitely not a good sign..horse could easily trip out again though.

Blenheim · 06-04-2019, 07:55 PM

In the 5/23 Paulick Report article, War Of Will Jogs At Keeneland, Assistant Carroll Says Preakness Winner ‘Building Up His Energy’, Casse assistant David Carrol said about War of Will, “He was happy to jog and right now we're just building up his energy,” said Carroll. “He was good. He felt great soundness wise. I'm sure in a couple days he'll be wanting to do a bit more. But it was good to get him back under tack.”

A week later in the 5/29 Paulick Report article, Casse: War Of Will ‘In A Very Happy Place,’ Won’t Breeze Before Belmont, Casse said, “He's not going to breeze. We kind of feel like he's in a very happy place and relaxed right now and we want him to be that way going 1 ½ miles so I don't really see any reason to,” Casse said. “We know his Preakness was good and I didn't breeze him into that. We are going to do it our way. So he is not going to breeze.”

Six days later in the 6/24 HRN article, War of Will 'acted fine' in eventful first local Belmont Stakes gallop, Casse said, "I had planned on jogging him this morning, but he had so much energy and was trying to jump on everybody and tried to jump on me, so I said to go ahead and gallop him."

From building up energy . . . to a happy place and relaxed no breeze . . . to having so much energy Casse had to gallop him, looks like War of Will has recovered from the Kentucky and the Baltimore and is gonna have somethin’ for em’ come the New York.

clicknow · 06-04-2019, 08:38 PM

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Casse said, "I had planned on jogging him this morning, but he had so much energy and was trying to jump on everybody and tried to jump on me, so I said to go ahead and gallop him."

he's a thoroughbred. Not like a kitten who likes to lay around in hammocks all day. They are spirited animals.

Most of these horses spend way (way) too much time standing in their stall most of the day anyway.

I'm sorry, but this just doesn't say anything to me at all.

TB orses should be galloped every day. Slowly, whatever, they need to do that. If a TB can't do a gallop then maybe think about not shooting them up with lasix so they can't recuperate normally.

There were a couple foreigners who came over for our TC races and that's what they do/did.