Pride Of Jenni - wow!

[PhantomOnTour]

Frontrunning demolition in the Gr1 Queen Elizabeth at Randwick

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[PaceAdvantage]

Wow...all those 200m splits were insanely consistent until the last two or so where she finally started slowing down...

[cj]

I never get tired of seeing horses do this, my favorite kind of race.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by cj

I never get tired of seeing horses do this, my favorite kind of race.

Me too…….no doubt on tactics in this one…….

Come and catch me if you can!

[Inner Dirt]

Wow, usually having a big early lead is a turf route is a death sentence.

[Seabiscuit@AR]

There is a good analysis of this race at the link below. The jockeys in the peloton gave the winner way too big of a start. The winner was running about 15 lengths faster than average but they let her have a 25 to 30 length lead. If the peloton runs at an average speed they likely catch Pride of Jenni just as Cascadian did the start before in the Australian Cup (Cascadian was 4th in this race)

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/coul...ckeys-20240415

[steveb]

Originally Posted by Seabiscuit@AR

There is a good analysis of this race at the link below. The jockeys in the peloton gave the winner way too big of a start. The winner was running about 15 lengths faster than average but they let her have a 25 to 30 length lead. If the peloton runs at an average speed they likely catch Pride of Jenni just as Cascadian did the start before in the Australian Cup (Cascadian was 4th in this race)

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/coul...ckeys-20240415

If they went harder chasing, then maybe they finish further behind.


The winner is the very best type of horse to back, where she can do it both ends.


The 15 lengths faster,........... how do we know that is for similar class races, or just the overall average?


Not to mention lengths is a tenuous measure, which by its nature has to be a variable, dependent on distance and time.



One thing I know about the trainer, he is into data analysis big time, and perhaps where she was in the run, was a result of that data analysis.



If they ran that race 10 times over, pretty sure she would have won them all.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by Seabiscuit@AR

There is a good analysis of this race at the link below. The jockeys in the peloton gave the winner way too big of a start. The winner was running about 15 lengths faster than average but they let her have a 25 to 30 length lead. If the peloton runs at an average speed they likely catch Pride of Jenni just as Cascadian did the start before in the Australian Cup (Cascadian was 4th in this race)

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/coul...ckeys-20240415

They were probably operating under the assumption she would tire and come back to the pack. It's odd that they would go slower than usual though. Most of the time, you just want the horse to be running comfortably and doing what it wants to do. That alone should have had them closer.

[TrifectaBox]

If you watch the pack , they weren't unduly held up .

[denniswilliams]

Originally Posted by steveb

If they went harder chasing, then maybe they finish further behind.


The winner is the very best type of horse to back, where she can do it both ends.


The 15 lengths faster,........... how do we know that is for similar class races, or just the overall average?


Not to mention lengths is a tenuous measure, which by its nature has to be a variable, dependent on distance and time.



One thing I know about the trainer, he is into data analysis big time, and perhaps where she was in the run, was a result of that data analysis.



If they ran that race 10 times over, pretty sure she would have won them all.

First thing that struck me watching the race is how unordered the peloton was. Haven't seen a headon view, so I could be wrong, but chasing without cover is no way to run down a loose leader. If this were Hong Kong, they'd be chasing 2 across, in a tight pack (drafting).

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by TrifectaBox

If you watch the pack , they weren't unduly held up .

That was my visual impression also. I know less than nothing about what the typical fractions are there relative to that final time, how the track was playing, or what the other horses are capable of. I just took the word of the person in the article.

[steveb]

POJ's owner making some interesting comments on twitter....


@tony_ottob53002