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03-18-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Oh, crap! Yet another spelling. So far we have "Law of Non Contradiction", "Law of Noncontradiction" and "Law of Non-contradiction". Now we have "LNC" to plug into PA's minimal search engine.
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Don't sweat the small stuff, Sparky. Just plug answers into a post to my questions in 5733 or 5774 so that I can dispose of you, as well.
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03-18-2018, 05:05 PM
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#5807
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Originally Posted by hcap
Please don't confuse us by being overly technical.
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It's not possible to confuse you more than you already are.
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03-19-2018, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Just plug answers into a post to my questions in 5733 or 5774 ...
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Your second premise is a claim, made by you, and thus the burden of proof is on you.
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03-19-2018, 02:23 AM
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By the way, I just popped into my car a couple of hours ago to go somewhere and popped back out when I got home. But guess what? I'm still around. I didn't disappear. Kool, huh?
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Are you certain? Or is there a chance you have not clearly"identified" somewhere, popped, and home in the same sense and at at the same time in sub-microscopic swampland.
You should really remember our friend Werner more often. He is quite famous for debunking your blanket statements when you are traveling in sub-microscopic swampland.
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03-19-2018, 02:59 AM
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Check your watch.
Sub-microscopic swampland suffers from lack of clearly measuring time. And a general fuzziness.
'Blurred times' in a quantum world
https://phys.org/news/2017-03-blurre...tum-world.html
...When measuring time, we normally assume that clocks do not affect space and time, and that time can be measured with infinite accuracy at nearby points in space. However, combining quantum mechanics and Einstein's theory of general relativity theoretical physicists from the University of Vienna and the Austrian Academy of Sciences have demonstrated a fundamental limitation for our ability to measure time. The more precise a given clock is, the more it "blurs" the flow of time measured by neighbouring clocks. As a consequence, the time shown by the clocks is no longer well defined. The findings are published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS).
Fuzziness in Quantum Mechanics
http://cds.cern.ch/record/518511/files/0107054.pdf
It is shown that quantum mechanics can be regarded as what one
might call a ”fuzzy” mechanics whose underlying logic is the
fuzzy one,in contradistinction to the classical ”crisp” logic. There
fore classical mechanics can be viewed as a crisp limit of a ”fuzzy” quantum mechanics.
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03-19-2018, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Are you certain? Or is there a chance you have not clearly"identified" somewhere, popped, and home in the same sense and at at the same time in sub-microscopic swampland.
You should really remember our friend Werner more often. He is quite famous for debunking your blanket statements when you are traveling in sub-microscopic swampland.
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Not a chance!
And there's not a chance that you can invalidate the LNC apart from using it, at which time you will also have validated it.
Catch-22s are a bear, aren't they?
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03-19-2018, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Check your watch.
Sub-microscopic swampland suffers from lack of clearly measuring time. And a general fuzziness.
'Blurred times' in a quantum world
https://phys.org/news/2017-03-blurre...tum-world.html
...When measuring time, we normally assume that clocks do not affect space and time, and that time can be measured with infinite accuracy at nearby points in space. However, combining quantum mechanics and Einstein's theory of general relativity theoretical physicists from the University of Vienna and the Austrian Academy of Sciences have demonstrated a fundamental limitation for our ability to measure time. The more precise a given clock is, the more it "blurs" the flow of time measured by neighbouring clocks. As a consequence, the time shown by the clocks is no longer well defined. The findings are published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS).
Fuzziness in Quantum Mechanics
http://cds.cern.ch/record/518511/files/0107054.pdf
It is shown that quantum mechanics can be regarded as what one
might call a ”fuzzy” mechanics whose underlying logic is the
fuzzy one,in contradistinction to the classical ”crisp” logic. There
fore classical mechanics can be viewed as a crisp limit of a ”fuzzy” quantum mechanics.
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Have no fear, Whiz Kid. One day scientists will see clearly enough to see through that fuzziness. All they need is a little time.
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03-19-2018, 08:29 AM
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Duh! Will they see it directly non-whiz kid?
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03-19-2018, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Not a chance!
And there's not a chance that you can invalidate the LNC apart from using it, at which time you will also have validated it.
Catch-22s are a bear, aren't they?
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Werner and I can debunk the law of non contradiction when you use it
Btw, the map" of sub-microscopic swampland must be redrawn frequently, are you certain when you went "somewhere", and particularly back, you used the latest ? How do you know you are home?
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03-19-2018, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Werner and I can debunk the law of non contradiction when you use it
Btw, the map" of sub-microscopic swampland must be redrawn frequently, are you certain when you went "somewhere", and particularly back, you used the latest ? How do you know you are home?
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Btw in sub microscopic swampland, sub microscopic buffoons and non buffoons can not see light photons directly. On the quantum level, your eyes are smaller than all wavelengths of all visible light. How can you recognize anything at all in sub microscopic swampland?
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03-19-2018, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Duh! Will they see it directly non-whiz kid?
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'cappy, I don't know how to tell ya this but....Time cannot be seen. But it's effects can be seen. Go buy a sundial and watch Time fly.
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03-19-2018, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
'cappy, I don't know how to tell ya this but....Time cannot be seen. But it's effects can be seen. Go buy a sundial and watch Time fly.
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We were speaking of fuzziness specifically
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Have no fear, Whiz Kid. One day scientists will see clearly enough to see through that fuzziness. All they need is a little time.
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Try to keep up whiz kid
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03-19-2018, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Werner and I can debunk the law of non contradiction when you use it
Btw, the map" of sub-microscopic swampland must be redrawn frequently, are you certain when you went "somewhere", and particularly back, you used the latest ? How do you know you are home?
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Now, you're sounding like Sparky who says I abuse the laws of logic. Funny though...how you two meatheads can't prove that I do. This is probably because neither one of you can't extricate your teeny tiny [pin]heads from any of your beloved sub-microscopic orifices in which you crash long enough to smell the fresh air in the real world.
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03-19-2018, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
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Who is sparky?
Logic is not as clear on the quantum level, due to all the conditions I mentioned. Particularly for self absorbed whiz kids.
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03-19-2018, 10:07 AM
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Once again....
http://cds.cern.ch/record/518511/files/0107054.pdf
It is shown that quantum mechanics can be regarded as what one
might call a ”fuzzy” mechanics whose underlying logic is the
fuzzy one,in contradistinction to the classical ”crisp” logic. There
fore classical mechanics can be viewed as a crisp limit of a ”fuzzy” quantum mechanics.
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