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01-18-2018, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Come on, what could go wrong?
This is from R9 today, LOL.
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Well, that fast pace tired them out.
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01-18-2018, 06:43 PM
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#92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Come on, what could go wrong?
This is from R9 today, LOL.
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Probably a bad battery or someone forgot to wind the timer, very minor items that the physical plant can handle...
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01-19-2018, 08:35 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onefast99
Probably a bad battery or someone forgot to wind the timer, very minor items that the physical plant can handle...
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This has been going on for 20 years. Beyer wrote about it a long time ago.
GP doesn't give a crap about timing races. Search here and you will find ould threads about this and the start of the boycott, that I still support to this day.
Minor items? In a game were fractions of a second make the difference between winning and out of the money????
GP should not be allowed to take wagers, period.
A hell of a lot of money goes in to those pools and GP is totally irresponsible in their handling of the wagering.
This is why I am 100% in favor of STRICT federal regulation of ALL race tracks.
The industry itself is far to incompetent to regulate themselves.
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01-19-2018, 01:22 PM
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/news...e-glory/315176
"Toast galloped a mile with a 98-rated horse who probably works to 110, and with Jimmy a conservative 10st 7lb and the rider of the other horse a tiny girl weighing 6st 7lb, he was in effect giving away four stone. Yet he worked much the better. On paper you could say he worked to 150-plus!"
IMO weight is only half as effective as theory says it is. So let's say he gave away 2 stone, or 28 lbs, which would still make it a 138+ workout. Obviously it's just a workout but that's very encouraging.
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01-21-2018, 10:34 PM
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#96
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Originally Posted by gm10
https://www.racingpost.com/news/news...e-glory/315176
"Toast galloped a mile with a 98-rated horse who probably works to 110, and with Jimmy a conservative 10st 7lb and the rider of the other horse a tiny girl weighing 6st 7lb, he was in effect giving away four stone. Yet he worked much the better. On paper you could say he worked to 150-plus!"
IMO weight is only half as effective as theory says it is. So let's say he gave away 2 stone, or 28 lbs, which would still make it a 138+ workout. Obviously it's just a workout but that's very encouraging.
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interesting thanks for posting
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01-21-2018, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
This has been going on for 20 years. Beyer wrote about it a long time ago.
GP doesn't give a crap about timing races. Search here and you will find ould threads about this and the start of the boycott, that I still support to this day.
Minor items? In a game were fractions of a second make the difference between winning and out of the money????
GP should not be allowed to take wagers, period.
A hell of a lot of money goes in to those pools and GP is totally irresponsible in their handling of the wagering.
This is why I am 100% in favor of STRICT federal regulation of ALL race tracks.
The industry itself is far to incompetent to regulate themselves.
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Gulfstream has FIVE races listed as "hand timed" over the last two race days.
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01-21-2018, 11:51 PM
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#98
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Originally Posted by cj
Gulfstream has FIVE races listed as "hand timed" over the last two race days.
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And Santa Anita can't get changes...A Stronach policy?
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01-22-2018, 09:12 AM
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All Navarro horses come over from Calder Training Center 2 days prior to the races and are in the detention barn, very good move on behalf of the Stronach Group.
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01-22-2018, 09:35 AM
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Franky is an embarrassment to the game.
Has been for decades.
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01-22-2018, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Franky is an embarrassment to the game.
Has been for decades.
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I cant wait till he sells Santa Anita and it becomes a office building!
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01-22-2018, 11:57 AM
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Get TSG out of racing.
Arcadia won't allow any office buildings. That track is safe in other hands. Somebody please buy that track.
He turned GP into a shopping mall. Spent 30 million on a statue. The PAYgasus is for the 0.5%.
The guy is nuts.
Last edited by Denny; 01-22-2018 at 12:00 PM.
Reason: spelling
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01-22-2018, 12:42 PM
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#103
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denny
Get TSG out of racing.
Arcadia won't allow any office buildings. That track is safe in other hands. Somebody please buy that track.
He turned GP into a shopping mall. Spent 30 million on a statue. The PAYgasus is for the 0.5%.
The guy is nuts.
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GP is actually a nice track to go to. GPW is the one that needs to be bulldozed...
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01-22-2018, 01:34 PM
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I've been to GP. It's a bandbox.
You can't even move around that place on a crowded day. People take your spot as soon as you move. You have to pay for a seat - everywhere!
People sit in the simulcast without windows. Never see a horse in the flesh.
I would only go on a weekday. If I ever go again.
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01-22-2018, 01:40 PM
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BTW. GP West (Calder) has been bulldozed. Only the race courses, paddock, and some betting windows and bathrooms.
The slots and poker are separate, a building across the road, if I remember..
TSG wants a monopoly wherever they are. Look what happens wherever they are - Bay Area, LA, Florida. Next to go will be Pimlico.
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