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Old 10-18-2017, 09:50 PM   #16
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:45 PM   #17
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Never in my life have I encountered such a concentration of ignorant and ill informed people such as I have here.

Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.

Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy

In addition there are five governmental bodies who act as observers and participate as appropriate.

It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.

It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium.

From the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.


Now to today's nonsense as posted by Clocker.
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On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval*— information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

That last paragraph is from our friends at Snopes (citation to follow.)
The Hill story claims that multiple US agencies were investigating Vladim Mikerin for corruption. But it never says which agencies they were. It claims the investigations began before 2010 and continued until 2014. But it never says what happened after that. Apparently there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

If there was sufficient evidence, then why doesn't the Trump administration pursue this?

Why was this information being gathered by these anonymous agencies not shared with the officials making the recommendations in the Uranium One matter? Because it should not have been. These were unfounded allegations. Regardless of whether they might turn out to be true, they were not proven at the time.

There is also the matter that going public with an investigation could compromise that investigation. I know that I hear law enforcement agencies say all the time that they will not comment on an ongoing investigation.

So we have documents that the Hill claims to have but has not produced. We have statements by persons that the Hill will not identify. We have nothing.

AS promised

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clint...m-russia-deal/
thank goodness we have mostpost and snopes - otherwise we would all think there was bribery, corruption, kickbacks and collusion between the Russians and the democrats.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:25 PM   #18
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A quick glance shows no proof that the story was wrong, a quick hand wave without facts dismissing the Clinton payola, and arguments from Snopes that in the first two long articles from The Hill, published yesterday and today, the authors did not share their sources.

Yawn. What journalists share their sources in an obvious long term on-going story?

PS Foxfire says the Snopes link is bad and won't connect to it.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:31 PM   #19
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http://nypost.com/2017/10/17/team-ob...ussian-crimes/

Not much different but with outside links
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:41 PM   #20
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If Most-Snopes rejects The Hill, which tends toward the middle of the road, without proof, he certainly is going to have a cow about the NY Post.

Snopes is a lot more partisan than The Hill.
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People around the Clinton's go to jail a lot, but they never do.
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Old 10-19-2017, 08:58 AM   #22
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People around the Clinton's go to jail a lot, but they never do.
People around the Clinton's die a lot.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:52 AM   #23
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thank goodness we have mostpost and snopes - otherwise we would all think there was bribery, corruption, kickbacks and collusion between the Russians and the democrats.
Snopes does more to discredit itself every day than any critic could possibly do by attacking it.

Gee, I wonder why all those contributions to the Clinton Foundation dried up once she lost?

Snopes would say there is no proof of a correlation between the 2 things. lmao
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Crooked Hillary out of USA with broken foot just when the "big ugly" is coming down the pike. Where are ye Hillary? Dubai. Russia.
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Old 10-19-2017, 12:06 PM   #25
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Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.
Do you really think that Obama would investigate this on his own and decide against the recommendation of pretty much all of his cabinet?

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Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy
Actually, that web site says that the members are the heads of those agencies.

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It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.
In the first quote above, you said that Hillary sat on the committee, now you say she wasn't involved. Do you seriously expect us to believe that Hillary would delegate her authority to a subordinate without instruction, direction, or supervision? The woman is a micro-manager.

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It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium.
What difference does it make how much they control? This is like Harvey Weinstein saying that he didn't molest nearly as many women as he is accused of. The point is that the deal required government approval, that Hillary had a role in that approval, that there was a lot of shady money passed around, and that the foxes were guarding the hen house. And it was a whole gang of foxes, by the way, including Holder, Mueller, and Rosenstein.

And as we know from at least as far back as Watergate, the cover-up is usually a bigger deal than the deed.
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Crooked Hillary out of USA with broken foot just when the "big ugly" is coming down the pike. Where are ye Hillary? Dubai. Russia.
Betty Ford Rehab Clinic?

She broke her toe when she tripped running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee! That's her story and she's sticking to it.
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Betty Ford Rehab Clinic?

She broke her toe when she tripped running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee! That's her story and she's sticking to it.
Or shuffling up the stairs in slippers with an empty cup of covfefe.
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What is the gist of this story?

I have ignored it as I don't really care.

Are people upset that we sold uranium to the Russians? How is this a Nuclear Scandal?
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What is the gist of this story?

I have ignored it as I don't really care.

Are people upset that we sold uranium to the Russians? How is this a Nuclear Scandal?
A deal with a Russian company involving uranium from this country required approval of our government. Lots of Russian money changed hands at the time, including donations to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 fee for Bill Clinton to give a speech in Russia. Pure coincidence, of course.

Those involved with the approval included Hillary, Holder, Mueller, and Rosenstein. The latter two are now involved in investigating alleged Russian influences on Trump's election.

Recently revealed info shows that all of the above were aware, before the approval, of an FBI investigation showing Russian bribery and kickbacks in this country, but the deal was approved and the investigation was quietly dropped.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...administration
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Imperator Rex has a good story to tell. Thread Reader is happy to present an unrolled Twitter story with 95 tweets #MAGA

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