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Old 04-05-2019, 03:07 PM   #16
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I'll do this again for this year's races:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...7&postcount=16

I'll post after this week's preps, then again after the Arkansas Derby.

In your post you wrote:
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I'm going to go back 10 more years and see how it holds up, particularly when non-favorites were winning. I'll post more soon.
It would be interesting to see how that data held up . . .
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:27 PM   #17
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It would be interesting to see how that data held up . . .
I'll post it also, it held up very well if memory serves, but even if not I'll post.
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:47 PM   #18
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The numbers have their own language . . .

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I'll post it also, it held up very well if memory serves, but even if not I'll post.
Should be interesting to review and study . . . lookin' forward to takin' a look at your work.
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:58 PM   #19
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Should be interesting to review and study . . . lookin' forward to takin' a look at your work.
Same here. Thanks CJ.
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Thanks. I’ll be looking over that info, as well. Good work.
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Old 04-06-2019, 03:53 PM   #21
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I found where I left off, skipped 2011 since the winner came out of a synthetic track race. Not sure how to handle those. I'll work on it next week.

Then I did 2010. Top three were Ice Box, Dublin, Super Saver.

For some reason (maybe pre synthetics?), I then went to the beginning of my data, 2004:

Top 3: The Cliff's Edge, Lion Heart, Smarty Jones

The last one I did was 2005: Afleet Alex, Bellamy Road, Greeley's Galaxy

I'll finish the rest this week and post. The query is all set up but takes a bit to run it for each year and pair up with the horses that actually ran in the Derby.

I guess I'll just treat synth race like the others and see how it works out.
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Looks like its all the Wood runners to bet in the Derby!
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:28 AM   #24
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Seconds to feet per second . . .

PowerUp,

For some odd reason I don't see your links. I see them on my phone and I see them when I quote, but I don't see them otherwise . . . I see your post but the area is blank.

Anyways, how about givin' us your Prep Final Fraction info in a list for the Derby Top Twenty. It would be twice as bestest if you pressed that button that gives us feet per second and better bestest if you press that button that gives us fastest to slowest . . . here is what I'm thinkin':


36.36 seconds / 54.05 feet per second - Haikal
37.06 seconds / 53.42 feet per second - Tacitus
37.69 seconds / 52.53 feet per second - Tax


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For some odd reason I don't see your links. I see them on my phone and I see them when I quote, but I don't see them otherwise . . . I see your post but the area is blank.

Anyways, how about givin' us your Prep Final Fraction info in a list for the Derby Top Twenty. It would be twice as bestest if you pressed that button that gives us feet per second and better bestest if you press that button that gives us fastest to slowest . . . here is what I'm thinkin':


36.36 seconds / 54.05 feet per second - Haikal
37.06 seconds / 53.42 feet per second - Tacitus
37.69 seconds / 52.53 feet per second - Tax


Lookin' forward to seein' your work.
The original numbers are way off for the Wood.. posted by Mr. P.I.

cut and pasted from drf...

Times in 5ths: :233 :464 1:112 1:374 1:511
Times in 100ths: :23.62 :46.91 1:11.46 1:37.81 1:51.23

doesn't come close to matching at all...final /38ths in 39.77 for the winner....which the way they were running....looks more logical as well...

wonder how many more are off...
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The original numbers are way off for the Wood.. posted by Mr. P.I.

cut and pasted from drf...

Times in 5ths: :233 :464 1:112 1:374 1:511
Times in 100ths: :23.62 :46.91 1:11.46 1:37.81 1:51.23

doesn't come close to matching at all...final /38ths in 39.77 for the winner....which the way they were running....looks more logical as well...

wonder how many more are off...
The call times are for the leader. The winner was 7.5 lengths back (~1.5 seconds) at the 3/4 pole hence adjustments need to be made to get his fraction.

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The call times are for the leader. The winner was 7.5 lengths back (~1.5 seconds) at the 3/4 pole hence adjustments need to be made to get his fraction.
You are correct...got my races mixed up as to who was leader when...
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Tacitus is a RAN correct?
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[QUOTE=f2tornado;2449826]The call times are for the leader. The winner was 7.5 lengths back (~1.5 seconds) at the 3/4 pole hence adjustments need to be made to get his fraction.[/QUOTE

If the final 3/8 ths were run in 39.77 and Tacitus was 7 lengths back or 1.5 seconds then 39.77-1.5=38.27. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I don't see where the 37.06 came from.
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