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[davew]

I wonder what a 30% import tariff on panels will do?

[FantasticDan]

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[reckless]

Originally Posted by Tom

So go buy stock.

Better yet, hcap should buy solar panels.

[davew]

Originally Posted by reckless

Better yet, hcap should buy solar panels.

If hcap lives in a 'progressive' state, there are probably nice tax credits to 'save' the state from global warming...

[chadk66]

I priced solar for my home. It would take 55 years to recoup the cost. Absolute non starter for me. What a joke.

[Red Knave]

Originally Posted by Actor

The hydrogen could then be stored until used as fuel. It could be distributed through existing pipe lines. The problem is that not many vehicles use natural gas powered engines.

Hydrogen does not equal natural gas. Hydrogen can be used in fuel cells which, right now, are still pretty expensive. Interesting that how they work now is using a chemical reaction to create electricity. It seems like there would be no gain using solar to create hydrogen to create electricity.
Natural gas is mostly methane. Gasoline engines can be retrofitted to burn natural gas but not hydrogen.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Red Knave

Hydrogen does not equal natural gas. Hydrogen can be used in fuel cells which, right now, are still pretty expensive. Interesting that how they work now is using a chemical reaction to create electricity. It seems like there would be no gain using solar to create hydrogen to create electricity.
Natural gas is mostly methane. Gasoline engines can be retrofitted to burn natural gas but not hydrogen.

Are you sure??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fuel

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by chadk66

I priced solar for my home. It would take 55 years to recoup the cost. Absolute non starter for me. What a joke.

It's not even close for me. Solar Tile Roofs crush in terms of savings but the average lifespan where I live is 15-20 years so you have to factor that in.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by chadk66

I priced solar for my home. It would take 55 years to recoup the cost. Absolute non starter for me. What a joke.

25 on mine and I live in an area with much sun.

It’s getting closer.......

[elysiantraveller]

Are you guys pricing assuming you'd never have to replace the roof again? Tesla has a lifetime warranty. Plus any power surplus isn't being accounted for which the power company would credit back to you.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Are you guys pricing assuming you'd never have to replace the roof again? Tesla has a lifetime warranty. Plus any power surplus isn't being accounted for which the power company would credit back to you.

I used the formula provided by the electric co-op. You submit your info and they send you an estimate etc. they are all for it. They didn’t seem to blink at 24 yrs and 7 months.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

I used the formula provided by the electric co-op. You submit your info and they send you an estimate etc. they are all for it. They didn’t seem to blink at 24 yrs and 7 months.

Got a link?

I'll need a new roof in the next couple of years so if I decide I'm staying put it is something I'd consider. Would be that or metal.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Got a link?

I'll need a new roof in the next couple of years so if I decide I'm staying put it is something I'd consider. Would be that or metal.

It wasn’t an automated link, it was a form for customers who were interested, to fill out. You just answered some questions and they sent you info back a few days later.

I found this link in my history, I think it’s connected to it

www.apserve3.nrel.gov/PVWatts_Viewer/index.html

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Are you guys pricing assuming you'd never have to replace the roof again? Tesla has a lifetime warranty. Plus any power surplus isn't being accounted for which the power company would credit back to you.

what is the expected lifetime of Tesla? not all power companies are generous with their purchases.

[chadk66]

I have a fifty plus year roof. I have a 26'x54' south/southwest facing roof. The ultimate setup for solar panels. I submitted my electrical use to several companies. The best/lowest setup was 68K and like 65 years or so to recover that cost. So it was laughable at best. Going to all LED lights and installing a pellet/wood burning stove would destroy that method by an enormous amount. Solar will be one hell of a tough sell in probably half this country. So if you think solar is taking over this country your living in a complete fantasy land lol.