Discussion of the Mueller Report

[Tom]

I say one man has an opinion.
He is not FOX news, he is a contributor, of opinions.

We allow that down here, not how you handle it up there.
He is not turning on anyone, he is expressing an opinion, something we see on FOX a lot of the time. Unlike FNN am PMSNBC, those on FOX NEWS actually THINK and report truth.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by Burls

Even FauxNews is turning on Hair Furor.
What do you FauxNews fans say about this?

First off, Judge Napolitano is not 'Fox News.' He is just one of a few there who are suffering with 'grandiose delusional disorder' (over-inflated sense of worth, power, knowledge, or identity); Shepard Smith is another.

It's been pretty obvious for a while now that Judge Napolitano has been gradually turning on Trump. With this latest rant, he has fully blasted out of the closet. But hey, he's entitled to his opinion, and that is all that it is...his opinion.

Alan Dershowitz, whose credentials far exceed those of Napolitano's, disagrees:

Dershowitz: It's not obstruction if the president acted within his authority

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

First off, Judge Napolitano is not 'Fox News.' He is just one of a few there who are suffering with 'grandiose delusional disorder' (over-inflated sense of worth, power, knowledge, or identity); Shepard Smith is another.

It's been pretty obvious for a while now that Judge Napolitano has been gradually turning on Trump. With this latest rant, he has fully blasted out of the closet. But hey, he's entitled to his opinion, and that is all that it is...his opinion.

Alan Dershowitz, whose credentials far exceed those of Napolitano's, disagrees:

Dershowitz: It's not obstruction if the president acted within his authority

He was passed over for multiple jobs

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

He was passed over for multiple jobs

Yes, one of which was a seat on the Supreme Court. And to think, it's usually only said that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

Napolitano told friends he was on Trump's Supreme Court shortlist

[hcap]

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s report has predictably produced a flurry of debate about its real meaning and what, if anything, should happen next. But on one crucial matter the report, released to the public April 18, is crystal clear: “The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.” This is not a new finding. But it is unambiguous and underscores the pressing need to do far more to protect the integrity of our elections.

Yet......

Reason enough to lock him up.
But first impeach!

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[hcap]

I wonder if this will be an impetus to release his taxes?

Blue states move to block Donald Trump from 2020 ballot
20 states introduced bills that would require presidential candidates to release their taxes
https://www.salon.com/2019/04/26/blu...m-2020-ballot/


As President Donald Trump continues to refuse requests to hand over copies of his tax returns from Democrats on Capitol Hill, state lawmakers are considering making their release a condition of the 2020 presidential election.

Nearly twenty states across the county have introduced legislation that would require all presidential and vice presidential candidates to release their individual tax returns in order to appear on the ballot during the presidential or general election, according to data from the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL).

...Although not required by law, every major party presidential nominee since the 1970s has chosen to publicly release his or her tax returns except for Gerald Ford, who only released a summary. Financial disclosures can help paint a fuller picture of a candidate's business positions and interests by providing information about financial dealings, such as investments, donations, business relationships, assets and possible conflicts of interests.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by hcap

I wonder if this will be an impetus to release his taxes?

Blue states move to block Donald Trump from 2020 ballot
20 states introduced bills that would require presidential candidates to release their taxes
https://www.salon.com/2019/04/26/blu...m-2020-ballot/


As President Donald Trump continues to refuse requests to hand over copies of his tax returns from Democrats on Capitol Hill, state lawmakers are considering making their release a condition of the 2020 presidential election.

Nearly twenty states across the county have introduced legislation that would require all presidential and vice presidential candidates to release their individual tax returns in order to appear on the ballot during the presidential or general election, according to data from the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL).

...Although not required by law, every major party presidential nominee since the 1970s has chosen to publicly release his or her tax returns except for Gerald Ford, who only released a summary. Financial disclosures can help paint a fuller picture of a candidate's business positions and interests by providing information about financial dealings, such as investments, donations, business relationships, assets and possible conflicts of interests.

Well then, Demos, go for it! But, don't be surprised, when yet another attempted coup blows up in your face.

Richard L. Hasen, an election-law expert, considered the legality and prudence of these measures in Politico Magazine. While Hasen argues that cases for and against constitutionality could be made, Democrats might be opening a “Pandora’s box” by pursuing it.

“Will solidly Republican states allow electors to vote only for Republican candidates for president?” he wrote. “If the tax gambit is OK, then such a law might also be constitutional. Or perhaps the GOP would retaliate with laws aimed at voter suppression or other such measures that target typically Democratic constituencies."

Another caveat: What do you do with a tax return that is filed jointly with the candidates spouse and whose name would NOT be on the ballot? What if said spouse refuses to allow his or her jointly filed personal tax return to be made public? How far are the desperate Demos willing to go to try and suppress individual rights?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Burls

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Did President Trump obstruct justice?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...struct-justice

Mueller laid out at least a half-dozen crimes of obstruction committed by Trump -- from asking former Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland to write an untruthful letter about the reason for Flynn's chat with Kislyak, to asking Corey Lewandowski and then-former White House Counse lDon McGahn to fire Mueller and McGahn to lie about it, to firing Comey to impede the FBI's investigations, to dangling a pardon in front of Michael Cohen to stay silent, to ordering his aides to hide and delete records.

The essence of obstruction is deception or diversion -- to prevent the government from finding the truth. To Mueller, the issue was not if Trump committed crimes of obstruction. Rather, it was if Trump could be charged successfully with those crimes.

Even FauxNews is turning on Hair Furor.
What do you FauxNews fans say about this?

They are dropping like flies.

Peggy Noonan

Longtime conservative Peggy Noonan stomps all over Trump — and calls for a Democrat to replace him in 2020

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/lon...-replace-2020/



In her weekly column for the Wall Street Journal, longtime conservative columnist Peggy Noonan expressed dismay with President Donald Trump — saying he was given a chance to act like a president, failed and now it is time for him to go.

According to the former presidential speechwriter, Trump has been nothing but a “disruptive” force since he came to Washington D.C. after his surprise election.

“Trump supporters have long held, and deeply believe, that none of the people in what they call the swamp were ever anything but unalterably opposed to him and meant, from day one, to remove him by whatever means possible,” Noonan began. “This was true of about half of official Washington. They were predominately Democrats, though there were Republicans too, and certainly the media were against him, overwhelmingly.”

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Well then Demos, go for it! But, don't be surprised when yet another attempted coup blows up in your face.

From your article:

Or perhaps the GOP would retaliate with laws aimed at voter suppression or other such measures that target typically Democratic constituencies.

The GOP already does that.

Looking at you Georgia and Florida.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Another caveat: What do you do with a tax return that is filed jointly with the candidates spouse and whose name would NOT be on the ballot? What if said spouse refuses to allow his or her jointly filed personal tax return to be made public? How far are the desperate Demos willing to go to try and suppress individual rights?

Just publish them. The Obma's did.
So died George and Laura.

And?

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

From your article:



The GOP already does that.

Looking at you Georgia and Florida.

Backup.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

Just publish them. The Obma's did.
So died George and Laura.

And?

So what?

His taxes have ALREADY ben reviewed by the government whose EXPRESS job is to do that.


And found nothing.

Let go man, your lost.

[MargieRose]

Originally Posted by Tom

So what?

His taxes have ALREADY ben reviewed by the government whose EXPRESS job is to do that.


And found nothing.

Let go man, your lost.

Yes, SO WHAT??

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Tom

So what?

His taxes have ALREADY ben reviewed by the government whose EXPRESS job is to do that.


And found nothing.

Let go man, your lost.

Well there is the fact he hasn't divested his businesses and emoluments.

Also the fact he has been accused of committing fraud. Comparing returns to loan applications would then make sense.

Does his complete unwillingness to provide lead you to believe he's covering something up?

If so what do you think it is?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by MargieRose

Backup.

Backup?

The GOP already engages in voter suppression from time to time... threatening a Democrat with that won't intimidate them at all...