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Old 05-23-2018, 12:03 AM   #136
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When you say stuff like the bolded above people immediately dismiss you because you are attempting to frame an argument on a false premise.
Wrong.
I'm generally dismissed around here about the time I hit "submit reply".

Proud of it, too.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:07 AM   #137
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Wrong.
I'm generally dismissed around here about the time I hit "submit reply".

Proud of it, too.
I added pictures to my previous post if it helps.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:16 AM   #138
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Did you just admit this?

Finally!
Context.... Context. But we know how the left just loves taking thing out it... just admit it.
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:00 AM   #139
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Oh c'mon now......you know how it goes.
"but those were different times back then"

Until you bring up military assault firearms.
"Arms are arms, goddamit -and we got the right to bear 'em"

Commonly known as selective interpretation of constitutional history.
We eventually DID grant freedom to all. A REPUBLICAN president.
In spite the of the massive and violent and disgusting efforts of the DEMOCRATS, through the KKK, to prevent those from exercising those rights. You remember the KKK, the group that brought us a democratic senator who served until just recently, in spite of his racist black heart.

Like the REAL Americans who made this major change, you FAUX Americans also have the right to change the constitution, but are just too "goddam" lazy to try.

Next time you buy a history book, READ it.
Much more informative than those stupid cartoons you seem to use for your higher education.
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:01 AM   #140
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Wrong.
I'm generally dismissed around here about the time I hit "submit reply".

Proud of it, too.
Long before that!
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:17 AM   #141
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Too bad the slaves that those freedom-lovin' founding fathers owned weren't part of this whole liberty thing.
If the founding fathers did not create this country, when do you suppose the British would have ended slavery?
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If the founding fathers did not create this country, when do you suppose the British would have ended slavery?
Trading in slaves ended in the UK in 1807,then slavery itself in 1833.And it didn't take a costly and destructive war to do it.

After the Revolutionary War, America was an independent nation,free to end slavery but chose not to.Pointing fingers at the British is irrelevent.
In other words, not everything the "Founding Fathers" did was marvelous.Just a reminder
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Old 05-23-2018, 11:50 AM   #143
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Trading in slaves ended in the UK in 1807,then slavery itself in 1833.And it didn't take a costly and destructive war to do it.

After the Revolutionary War, America was an independent nation,free to end slavery but chose not to.Pointing fingers at the British is irrelevent.
In other words, not everything the "Founding Fathers" did was marvelous.Just a reminder
British colonies were a separate matter. Slavery was abolished in India in 1868, Malaya 1915, Burma 1926, Sierra Leone 1927. Hooks were included in our constitution to end slavery but If the founding fathers had made ending slavery a condition of support for independence, we would not have gained independence in 1776.
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Trading in slaves ended in the UK in 1807,then slavery itself in 1833.And it didn't take a costly and destructive war to do it.

After the Revolutionary War, America was an independent nation,free to end slavery but chose not to.Pointing fingers at the British is irrelevent.
In other words, not everything the "Founding Fathers" did was marvelous.Just a reminder
Many of them DID want to outlaw it but knew it was not going to happen. They did make some concessions, ie, the 3/5 or whatever clause - laying the groundwork. Second guessing them hundreds of years later is not a reason to dismiss them, especially for political points as horsey was doing. Most of what they put together has worked rather well not only for us, but the the whole world.
The major error they made was not specifically outlawing political parties.

And I would point out to horsey that fixing immigration and passing tighter gun laws was an operation that the dem chose not to address even when they had the power to get both done.
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The major error they made was not specifically outlawing political parties.
“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”

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Old 05-24-2018, 09:10 AM   #146
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