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Results and ROI as requested by PaceAdvantage
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These are my results and ROI for the past 206 races
I will be posting more results in the near future but
this will have to do for now. These are very typical results
for my selections. This takes into account ALL the selections
I have posted on my site.These are NOT cherry picked results
Of course I do not recommend playing all the selections, but I
just wanted to show you that I can show a positive ROI.I know
I will hear that it is not a very big example but it is
what I have for now. What I found when going back to look at my
results is that if my top selection doesn't win it will place
a very high percentage of the time.
If my top pick was scratced I eliminated the race. I did not go to
the second choice on the list
TOP WINS RESULTS
DATE TRACK # PLAYS $ BET $RETURN
DEC 13 CRC 10 $20.00 $2.40
DEC 13 CTX 10 $20.00 $29.20
DEC 13 DED 10 $20.00 $6.20
DEC 13 FGX 11 $22.00 $20.00
DEC 13 GGX 8 $16.00 $16.00
DEC 13 HAW 2 $4.00 $7.40
DEC 13 HOL 8 $16.00 $0.00
DEC 13 HOU 9 $18.00 $18.60
DEC 13 LRL 8 $16.00 $60.40
DEC 13 TPX 8 $16.00 $20.00
DEC 14 AQU 7 $14.00 $8.50
DEC 14 BEU 8 $16.00 $5.80
DEC 14 CRC 8 $16.00 $32.20
DEC 14 CTX 10 $20.00 $29.60
DEC 14 DED 8 $16.00 $27.20
DEC 14 FGX 8 $16.00 $8.40
DEC 14 GGX 7 $14.00 $0.00
DEC 14 HAW 8 $16.00 $16.00
DEC 14 HOL 8 $16.00 $22.80
DEC 14 HOU 10 $20.00 $3.80
DEC 14 LRL 7 $14.00 $25.00
DEC 14 MNR 8 $16.00 $11.00
DEC 14 PHA 6 $12.00 $13.20
DEC 14 TPX 11 $22.00 $10.60
DEC 14 TUP 8 $16.00 $36.60
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206 $412.00 $430.90
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Last edited by csmith; 12-15-2007 at 12:07 PM.
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12-15-2007, 01:15 PM
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Anytime you can show a positive ROI over a decent number of races over a bunch of different tracks, it's a good thing....thanks for the numbers....
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12-15-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Anytime you can show a positive ROI over a decent number of races over a bunch of different tracks, it's a good thing....thanks for the numbers....
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I am looking for software to make this an easier chore for all the tracks I do.. Anyone have any suggestions
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12-15-2007, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Anytime you can show a positive ROI over a decent number of races over a bunch of different tracks, it's a good thing....thanks for the numbers....
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Thank you. I am surprised I am not hearing from anyone else.. Have I shut up the critics ?? 
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12-15-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by csmith
Thank you. I am surprised I am not hearing from anyone else.. Have I shut up the critics ?? |
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12-15-2007, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698
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I was beginning to wonder when you were going to crawl out of the woodwork.. Can you do better ??
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12-15-2007, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by csmith
I was beginning to wonder when you were going to crawl out of the woodwork.. Can you do better ??
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Yeah, but I'm not selling anything. I make money off of my picks. I don't need to sell them. Can you say the same?
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12-15-2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698
Yeah, but I'm not selling anything. I make money off of my picks. I don't need to sell them. Can you say the same?
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What the hell does it matter if I sell my picks.. I also bet my selections, so I make money both ways. Anytime you want to challenge me I'm ready..All tracks running everyday for 1 week, 1 horse per race..You ready ??
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12-15-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by csmith
What the hell does it matter if I sell my picks.. I also bet my selections, so I make money both ways. Anytime you want to challenge me I'm ready..All tracks running everyday for 1 week, 1 horse per race..You ready ??
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No thanks. I focus on one, maybe two tracks on days that I play. Your little challenge would prove nothing. Much like your one day tally proved nothing. Look if you can convince people to buy your "picks" more power to ya. I'm not impressed and frankly, it doesn't seem like anyone else is either.
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12-15-2007, 06:34 PM
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not being a critic but when i played your calder selections the other day lost
my shirt
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12-15-2007, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by judd
not being a critic but when i played your calder selections the other day lost
my shirt
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Ever heard the saying "you get what you pay for"? Very applicable here.
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12-15-2007, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698
No thanks. I focus on one, maybe two tracks on days that I play. Your little challenge would prove nothing. Much like your one day tally proved nothing. Look if you can convince people to buy your "picks" more power to ya. I'm not impressed and frankly, it doesn't seem like anyone else is either.
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I thought you would have an excuse..My challenge would prove that I could beat you !! I'm am not asking you to be impressed. I am just doing what everybody said I was afraid to do..A "tout" showing his ROI on his top picks..Wow thats unheard of..Why don't you post your ROI ?? Why don't you just crawl back into the woodwork. You don't impress me either.
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12-15-2007, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by csmith
I thought you would have an excuse..My challenge would prove that I could beat you !! I'm am not asking you to be impressed. I am just doing what everybody said I was afraid to do..A "tout" showing his ROI on his top picks..Wow thats unheard of..Why don't you post your ROI ?? Why don't you just crawl back into the woodwork. You don't impress me either.
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Seriously, what would a ONE day run through of every track running prove? If I only focus on one or two tracks a day, how could I come out on top handicapping tracks I've never played before. It's silly. See here's the thing, I'm not selling anything, I don't need to. If you are as good as you say, posting your ROI should be no big deal. Again, I have nothing to prove, I'm not selling.....you are.
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12-15-2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by judd
not being a critic but when i played your calder selections the other day lost
my shirt
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I never said my selections win everyday. PA challenged me to show my ROI for my top picks. I am doing just that.. If you look at my post of the results ( Above post ) you will see some days are bad.. Isn't that what horse racing is all about..What I am saying I showed a positive ROI for all of my picks using all tracks. What more do you guys want !!
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12-15-2007, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by judd
not being a critic but when i played your calder selections the other day lost
my shirt
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I just looked
Calder on the 13th I did lousy on the 14th Bet $16 returned $32.+.. Doubled your money
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