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01-24-2018, 01:07 PM
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#136
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I don't like Gun Runner's post position. I don't think he has won coming from this far on the outside especially with Giant Expectations and Seeking the Soul to the outside of him.
These three are compromised by their post positions and will have to attempt to clear each other or get stuck wide like Chrome did.
If you were going to set up this race for Sharp Azteca, you couldn't assign him a better post.
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01-24-2018, 01:13 PM
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#137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linrom1
I don't like Gun Runner's post position. I don't think he has won coming from this far on the outside especially with Giant Expectations and Seeking the Soul to the outside of him.
These three are compromised by their post positions and will have to attempt to clear each other or get stuck wide like Chrome did.
If you were going to set up this race for Sharp Azteca, you couldn't assign him a better post.
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Agree completely. Considering the draw and recent form of some others in here, Sharp Azteca has a real chance to bury this field. Think he has to be considered the most likely winner.
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01-24-2018, 01:54 PM
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#138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
He went two turns on Breeders' Cup day at Del Mar.
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He did, i was there, not sure how I forgot. He wasn't very good that day I'm my opinion.
Last edited by cj; 01-24-2018 at 04:55 PM.
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01-24-2018, 04:56 PM
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#139
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Pace Projector for the Pegasus attached:
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01-24-2018, 04:58 PM
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#140
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Pace Projector for the Pegasus attached:
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Pretty sure Collected will be pushed out of the gate. IMO he'll be in front of Gun Runner into the first turn BUT I have been wrong before.
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01-24-2018, 05:11 PM
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#141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
Pretty sure Collected will be pushed out of the gate. IMO he'll be in front of Gun Runner into the first turn BUT I have been wrong before.
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The Pace Projector isn't perfect by any means, but when people try to outguess it efficiency increases by 70%! (And that includes me!) Joking aside, it is a tool that should be used as a starting point. We expect and want people to disagree.
Last edited by cj; 01-24-2018 at 05:12 PM.
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01-24-2018, 05:12 PM
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#142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
The Pace Projector isn't perfect by any means, but when people try to outguess it efficiency increases by 70%! (And that includes me!)
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01-24-2018, 06:10 PM
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#143
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I can see all the inside horses running as the pace projector shows but if Gun Runner is at that position at first call he is going to have to work early to get position. I hope he will lay off a little early but not enough where Sharp Azteca get an easy run. Or hopefully someone else pushes Azteca a little and Runner can sit off their shoulder a few lengths back. Everyone will be live to Gun Runner in the rainbow, if it is still alive and every other person will have Sharp Azteca. Will need to find the odd man out to have a shot at the rainbow pool. Just hoping they all come back safe and looking forward to an exciting race. And that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
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01-24-2018, 07:15 PM
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#144
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Did anyone watch West Coasts workouts? One work, about two weeks ago, they were whipping him to gallop out-wasn't that impressed and he is the one I like the most for the upset
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01-24-2018, 08:31 PM
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#145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Did anyone watch West Coasts workouts? One work, about two weeks ago, they were whipping him to gallop out-wasn't that impressed and he is the one I like the most for the upset
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He always has been a crappy work horse, thats why they just were never that high on him last year and slow played him. That being said I am not sure about his chances here, he needs to improve and that inside draw may leave him some real traffic trouble going into the far turn. His best races were near the front and I wonder if he has that closing punch, good enough to be the the top horses, if he is more of a closer. He is also likely to be overbet in this spot as second choice.
I feel like Collected off his last race will and Sharp Azteca due to the distance are the only value in the race.
It does look like its only 4 horses that can win. I think I would press with Gun Runner and just back up to the other 2 with just a small saver to West Coast.
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01-24-2018, 08:33 PM
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#146
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What does Rosario do on Stellar Wind? My guess is he takes way back and makes one big run.
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01-24-2018, 09:00 PM
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#147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
What does Rosario do on Stellar Wind? My guess is he takes way back and makes one big run.
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He has no choice, she is way to slow early to go with these ones.
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01-24-2018, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
He has no choice, she is way to slow early to go with these ones.
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She used to be a dead closer but recently has stalked. Be interesting to see if first time Brown moves her up.
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01-24-2018, 09:08 PM
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#149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
He always has been a crappy work horse, thats why they just were never that high on him last year and slow played him. That being said I am not sure about his chances here, he needs to improve and that inside draw may leave him some real traffic trouble going into the far turn. His best races were near the front and I wonder if he has that closing punch, good enough to be the the top horses, if he is more of a closer. He is also likely to be overbet in this spot as second choice.
I feel like Collected off his last race will and Sharp Azteca due to the distance are the only value in the race.
It does look like its only 4 horses that can win. I think I would press with Gun Runner and just back up to the other 2 with just a small saver to West Coast.
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His work reminded me of Mor Spirits' works before the BC-I knew he wasn't going to run. Collected will be a drop dead send after that poor ride in his last. Think Azteca has to go also, leaving Gunrunner 3-4 wide for a majority of the race
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01-24-2018, 09:29 PM
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#150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
She used to be a dead closer but recently has stalked. Be interesting to see if first time Brown moves her up.
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She stalked in slow paced, small field races.
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