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08-29-2018, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I explained why we sent cash.T
I explained just wiring the money wasn't that easy.
I showed an example of how Republicans went after Obama for attempting to settle matters using American Financial Institutions already.
Since nobody here actually checks things out for themselves and just parrots the Fox/Right-wing/Alt-right talking point... here ya go... it won't be good enough... again I'm sure.
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And the U.S. couldn't bypass SWIFT because......????
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08-29-2018, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Yeah, I read all that.
That's why I said a special counsel ought to be hired to investigate this fully.
It is, as you say, shady AF.
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Its that whole focusing on the HOW and not the WHY thing I said earlier.
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08-29-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
And the U.S. couldn't bypass SWIFT because......????
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SWIFT IS THE WIRE SYSTEM!
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 08-29-2018 at 03:30 PM.
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08-29-2018, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Yeah, I read all that.
That's why I said a special counsel ought to be hired to investigate this fully.
It is, as you say, shady AF.
Since our wonderful all-truth-telling MSM failed to vet this out as fully as they do the number of ice cream scoops Trump enjoys for dessert, I see no alternative to a SC investigation.
Obama has some 'splainin to do
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I added to my last reply
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08-29-2018, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I added to my last reply
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Timeline:
2012:
Iran is denied access to the international monetary community when the US and EU bring actions against SWIFT.
2015:
Iran and the United States agree to a private settlement of a 4 decade legal arbitration.
2016:
Plane arrives with $400 million in cash as part of that settlement. JCPOA is signed.
There isn't a conspiracy under every rock.
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08-29-2018, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
Only the most gullible people on the planet buy that wire transfer bullshit story
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The gullible ones are those who believe this was a ransome payment. We gave them nothing. It was Iran’s own money that we returned to them. Plus interest.
Before the revolution, Iran sent an advance payment of $400,000,000 to the US for some fighter jets. When the Shah was deposed, the US cancelled delivery of the planes, but kept the money.
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08-29-2018, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The gullible ones are those who believe this was a ransome payment. We gave them nothing. It was Iran’s own money that we returned to them. Plus interest.
Before the revolution, Iran sent an advance payment of $400,000,000 to the US for some fighter jets. When the Shah was deposed, the US cancelled delivery of the planes, but kept the money.
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Throughout the 1980's Iran gave the United States about $1 billion back for losses and account settlements.
France paid them back for arms shipments in the early 90's. I can't remember when the UK settled some accounts but a couple years later I believe.
Truth is way more boring than conspiracy.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 08-29-2018 at 03:53 PM.
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08-29-2018, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The gullible ones are those who believe this was a ransome payment. We gave them nothing. It was Iran’s own money that we returned to them. Plus interest.
Before the revolution, Iran sent an advance payment of $400,000,000 to the US for some fighter jets. When the Shah was deposed, the US cancelled delivery of the planes, but kept the money.
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The money belonged to the prior government of Iran. Not the current one. The prior government of Iran now lives in Brentwood California, soaking up the sun with the rest of their millions.
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08-29-2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
The money belonged to the prior government of Iran. Not the current one. The prior government of Iran now lives in Brentwood California, soaking up the sun with the rest of their millions.
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Except nobody agreed with that assessment throughout the 80's, 90's, or 00's.
Particularly American's with financial interests in Iran who wanted their money back after the fall of the Shah.
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08-29-2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
My post on the first page didn't answer that?
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Yes, it did.
While in office, 0bamam knowingly violated the law and did it under the cover of night to avoid people knowing about it.
We call that organized crime.
Where is the special investigator for THAT, uh, which is it, a high crime of a misdemeanor?
POTUS was a bloody criminal. Thanks for the link proving it.
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but that was done in order to avoid existing Treasury Department sanctions that banned the use of American currency in transactions with Iran, and international sanctions which at that time kept Iran from accessing the global financial markets (and which were lifted in January 2016).
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08-29-2018, 03:58 PM
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Jimmy Carter could have excised this problem easily in 1979.
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08-29-2018, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Good Christ...
Google SWIFT.
I'm over this conversation... for the millionth time.
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Don’t you get it yet? These guys are incapable of thinking outside the box. Once someone tells them what to think that is what they will think forever.
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08-29-2018, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Yes, it did.
While in office, 0bamam knowingly violated the law and did it under the cover of night to avoid people knowing about it.
We call that organized crime.
Where is the special investigator for THAT, uh, which is it, a high crime of a misdemeanor?
POTUS was a bloody criminal. Thanks for the link proving it.
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- No he didn't. He authorized the payment of a legal settlement agreed to between the United States of America and the Government of Iran outside of the International Tribunal.
- Typically, if I'm cruising around with $400 million I try to keep a low-profile too, typically.
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08-29-2018, 04:15 PM
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Like a guy decides to make a withdrawal from a bank outside the law.
What a spinner you are!
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08-29-2018, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Like a guy decides to make a withdrawal from a bank outside the law.
What a spinner you are!
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Outside of what law?
You guys provide nothing but inane statements.
We could have let the Hague settle it at the IUSCT... Iran would probably have been awarded more than $1.7 Billion though...
But I digress don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.
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