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09-21-2019, 11:15 AM
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#871
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
His logic is that Trump didn't have War Powers rights to respond to Iran because American Military Aircraft aren't part of the Armed Forces.
He argument got nuked and now he's saving face.
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I do not think it matters what our logic is, in the end the only logic is dropping the hammer on a cancer to humanity and the timing that needs to be perfect.
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09-21-2019, 11:39 AM
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#872
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Burden of proof is on you my friend.
I'm not the one arguing an attack on Air Force equipment isn't an attack on the armed forces.
Knock yourself out.
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Yes you are arguing an attack on Air Force equipment isn't an attack on the armed forces.
You argued the War Power Act gave the President authority to attack Iran, because Iran shot down an unmanned piece of equipment. Your claim your burden to prove.
Support your claim by proving to us that blowing up a unmanned vehicle, e.g supply truck, drone is defined as "armed forces" for purposes of the statute and that the unmanned vehicle being destroyed creates a national emergency.
Your new nick should be Rumple, short for Rumpelstiltskin, as you try to turn the straw your spin into gold. Remember straw is used to cover manure. Unfortunately for you you don't have enough straw to cover the manure you shovel.
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Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 09-21-2019 at 11:42 AM.
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09-21-2019, 12:02 PM
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#873
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The Voice of Reason!
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Your new nick should be Rumple, short for Rumpelstiltskin, as you try to turn the straw your spin into gold. Remember straw is used to cover manure. Unfortunately for you you don't have enough straw to cover the manure you shovel.
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Ouch!
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09-21-2019, 12:22 PM
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#874
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Yes you are arguing an attack on Air Force equipment isn't an attack on the armed forces.
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Pretty sure that's your argument boss.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 09-21-2019 at 12:25 PM.
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09-21-2019, 12:29 PM
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#875
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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He must be the most sexually frustrated poster I've ever seen on here.
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09-21-2019, 12:29 PM
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#876
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Sure he can.
It's called the War Powers Act.
Plus I'm pretty sure Iran has already downed American aircraft so...
Understand though, I'm not saying he's backing down now. I'm saying he hasn't a clue what to do.
Eventually he'll have no choice to back down or respond.
Iran will keep escalating because... we've lost deterrence.
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Unless I post as elysiantraveller it is your claim not mine. Not enough straw, Rumple
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Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 09-21-2019 at 12:36 PM.
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09-21-2019, 04:18 PM
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#877
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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You sure that is not your bathroom mirror?
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09-21-2019, 06:03 PM
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#878
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed, but he has some stiff competition 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
He must be the most sexually frustrated poster I've ever seen on here.
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09-21-2019, 06:50 PM
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#879
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
He must be the most sexually frustrated poster I've ever seen on here.
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Yes, that's why I post non stop here and defend every post I make. No life at all.
No, wait...
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09-21-2019, 07:24 PM
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#880
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Yes you are arguing an attack on Air Force equipment isn't an attack on the armed forces.
You argued the War Power Act gave the President authority to attack Iran, because Iran shot down an unmanned piece of equipment. Your claim your burden to prove.
Support your claim by proving to us that blowing up a unmanned vehicle, e.g supply truck, drone is defined as "armed forces" for purposes of the statute and that the unmanned vehicle being destroyed creates a national emergency.
Your new nick should be Rumple, short for Rumpelstiltskin, as you try to turn the straw your spin into gold. Remember straw is used to cover manure. Unfortunately for you you don't have enough straw to cover the manure you shovel.
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OOps I see my typo. Isn't should have been is.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
George Washington
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09-21-2019, 07:27 PM
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#881
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Quintessential guru
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Yes, that's why I post non stop here and defend every post I make. No life at all.
No, wait...
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And you compose suggestive titles for threads, like Trump likes his tailpipes dirty.
Shame, shame 
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
George Washington
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09-21-2019, 07:37 PM
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#882
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Pretty sure that's your argument boss.
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Sorry for the missing the word "isn't" and perceiving it as the word "is" in the context of the sentence.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
George Washington
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09-21-2019, 11:07 PM
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#883
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less than 1/100 people know why all this crap is going on over there....real simple..."Petro-Dollar" agreement from the 1970's...educate yourselves...Trump is bound by it...
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09-22-2019, 08:50 AM
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#885
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: central fla.
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Originally Posted by fast4522
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Dude talked outta both sides of his mouth in THAT article....
You don't pay me enough to explain it to you...
Read OTHER opinions...and then THINK it thru...
H'e right on what he wrote by the way....just his interpretation is bullshit...although China does have us by the balls....as I've stated before....
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