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09-20-2019, 11:07 AM
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This story appears to have very creepy legs
I was going to wait a bit longer before reminding everyone, I have insisted it was only a matter of time. Almost ready.
I think Chumpy is going to deteriorate further before our eyes.
Soon after the story broke. Moscow Mitch relented on some precautionary Russian future meddling legislation. Next thing to look out for is more repugs cutting and running.
Next few weeks we will learn more.
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09-20-2019, 11:12 AM
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This whistleblower can go straight to Congress if he wanted to.
But no.
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People use whistleblower statutes to avoid retaliation.
You file one so a independent body can investigate and save you from reprisal.
The IG did that and found it "urgent" and "very concerning."
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09-20-2019, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
People use whistleblower statutes to avoid retaliation.
You file one so a independent body can investigate and save you from reprisal.
The IG did that and found it "urgent" and "very concerning."
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Urgent and very concerning huh.
Does not equate to your rabid behavior.
The Sky is falling chicken little bull$**#t. The fools on the left go round and round where they stop nobody knows.
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09-20-2019, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Urgent and very concerning huh.
Does not equate to your rabid behavior.
The Sky is falling chicken little bull$**#t. The fools on the left go round and round where they stop nobody knows.
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So you have nothing to say about what I said so you're going to falsely characterize how I'm saying it?
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
People use whistleblower statutes to avoid retaliation.
You file one so a independent body can investigate and save you from reprisal.
The IG did that and found it "urgent" and "very concerning."
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^^^^ Rabid ^^^^
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09-20-2019, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
People use whistleblower statutes to avoid retaliation.
You file one so a independent body can investigate and save you from reprisal.
The IG did that and found it "urgent" and "very concerning."
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Tuesday, the general counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Jason Klitenic, wrote that the agency is protecting the whistleblower and argued the allegation does not meet the definition of "urgent concern." He said
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09-20-2019, 12:40 PM
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Tuesday, the general counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Jason Klitenic, wrote that the agency is protecting the whistleblower and argued the allegation does not meet the definition of "urgent concern." He said
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That is very specifically not his call to make.
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09-20-2019, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
That is very specifically not his call to make.
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But that is his advice to whoever makes the call.
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09-20-2019, 01:01 PM
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But that is his advice to whoever makes the call.
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No.
IC IG investigates the claim. Makes his judgement. Delivers to the DNI who in turn delivers it to Congress.
The law is not vague on this.
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09-20-2019, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
No.
IC IG investigates the claim. Makes his judgement. Delivers to the DNI who in turn delivers it to Congress.
The law is not vague on this.
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Correct the law is not vague.
The statute does not apply to the President carrying out his duties relating to foreign affairs.
First reason. The statute applies to Intelligence agencies employees. The President is not an employee of an intelligence committee.
Second reason, Congress cannot make a law limiting Presidential powers as the office of the President is Constitutional office, it is not an agency created by Congressional act. The act of trying to apply the statute to the President is unconstitutional.
The U.S. House needs to stop the charade that it has oversight over an independent Constitutional office.
It is all politics. The Dem controlled committees are using this charade to play to its base, as way to inhibit the President by insinuating the evidence proving the President's criminal acts is being kept from them and to protect its own criminals, i.e. Biden from prosecution.
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09-20-2019, 02:16 PM
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An important point to keep in mind we do not know the substance of this complaint or the identity the alleged bad actor, so this whole thread is conjecture.
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09-20-2019, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
That is very specifically not his call to make.
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yes, Schiff Nadler Schumer need to make the call ... but they already know the sources and methods will affect national security because the people should not know the dims make crap up.
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09-20-2019, 02:36 PM
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An important point to keep in mind we do not know the substance of this complaint or the identity the alleged bad actor, so this whole thread is conjecture.
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Yes of course but you are missing one very important point and that is time is running out on impeachment, and they know that is their last and only hope to beat President Trump.
Resist they much and much is now only impeachment.
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09-20-2019, 02:47 PM
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Yes of course but you are missing one very important point and that is time is running out on impeachment, and they know that is their last and only hope to beat President Trump.
Resist they much and much is now only impeachment.
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Time ran out along time ago. Did you hear Pelosi's latest comment? She told Nadler to give up Moby Dick like obsession for impeachment.
Could it be Schiff is shilling this new in-plain-sight evidence to protect his and other Dem behinds due to the arrest of another large democrat donor sexual predator?
It seems too many large democrat donors are sexual predators and of couse the msm is ignoring this latest arrest of an influential donor.
My opinion this latest allegation by Schiff is for protection of Biden, deflecting from the criminal sexual behavior of their large donors and as a political weapon against the president to inhibit his presidency.
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09-20-2019, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
People use whistleblower statutes to avoid retaliation.
You file one so a independent body can investigate and save you from reprisal.
The IG did that and found it "urgent" and "very concerning."
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As I understand it, the whistleblower cannot go directly to Congress. He/she has to go through the head of the agency, in this case the DNI.
However, upon receiving the complaint, the DNI must pass it along to Congress.
Thus far, the acting DNI is refusing to do so.
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09-20-2019, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
As I understand it, the whistleblower cannot go directly to Congress. He/she has to go through the head of the agency, in this case the DNI.
However, upon receiving the complaint, the DNI must pass it along to Congress.
Thus far, the acting DNI is refusing to do so.
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That is correct.
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