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Old 05-25-2018, 04:55 PM   #46
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I'd be very surprised if Audible goes in the Belmont. No works since the KY Derby.
Audible out of Belmont
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:02 PM   #47
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So much for this year’s TC trail “wise guy horse.” I still don’t know who exactly bet him down in the derby to run as the 2nd favorite? Was it truly the wise guys or was it the name-bettors who liked their uncle jack, or whoever?
Anyway, the connections made the right move, deep closers don’t necessarily do better stretching out, in fact, the opposite is more often true.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:13 PM   #48
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So much for this year’s TC trail “wise guy horse.” I still don’t know who exactly bet him down in the derby to run as the 2nd favorite? Was it truly the wise guys or was it the name-bettors who liked their uncle jack, or whoever?
Anyway, the connections made the right move, deep closers don’t necessarily do better stretching out, in fact, the opposite is more often true.
My boy jack came with a pretty good run on a day when being wide wasn’t really that good.

Never mind I misread what you said

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Old 05-25-2018, 06:18 PM   #49
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So much for this year’s TC trail “wise guy horse.” I still don’t know who exactly bet him down in the derby to run as the 2nd favorite? Was it truly the wise guys or was it the name-bettors who liked their uncle jack, or whoever?
Anyway, the connections made the right move, deep closers don’t necessarily do better stretching out, in fact, the opposite is more often true.

Story I heard was some big conglomerate out of the NY area put down some early heat on him when wagering opened on Friday. Not sure how true that is, but the wagering kept happening right up till post time regardless of who it was. I'm sure the name had some to do with it, but major money and players aren't betting on names.



He had zero business being the 2nd favorite in that race. Especially when the track came up as a pure swamp and him needing to likely pass 17 to 19 horses in order to win.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:39 PM   #50
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So much for this year’s TC trail “wise guy horse.”
Was he the wise guy horse? WGH usually goes off at higher odds. I thought the wiseguy horse has been Hofburg and is still Hofburg?
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Old 05-26-2018, 06:58 AM   #51
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Was he the wise guy horse? WGH usually goes off at higher odds.
Historically I think you are accurate, but I also think that this year the WGH got pounded early and often enough to create a cascade of support. In the history of wise guy horses, this one is some kind of outlier.
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