View Poll Results: How do you feel about gun control laws?
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Current laws infringe on our rights and should be weakened
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Current laws are just fine, thanks. We don't need anything more
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Current laws are not satisfactory, there are "common sense" adjustments that should be made
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02-17-2018, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
I think the focus will shift to higher quality education evolving into a better grasp of helping all students grow into healthy productive young people.
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Certainly not until the federal Dept. of Education is abolished.
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02-17-2018, 01:04 PM
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Location: Lehigh Valley, PA.
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Originally Posted by fast4522
I think the focus will shift to higher quality education evolving into a better grasp of helping all students grow into healthy productive young people. Spotting problem students and rounding them whole instead of just tossing out clunkers. Schools that do not measure up to better standards should lose funding fast, we have to look into the mirror and see that the problem is us in our thirst for mediocre performance.
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Whatever problems are causing the violence and mental illness in society will hopefully work itself out over time. But that doesn't solve the problem now. When Guiliani took over NY, he stopped crime of all sorts in its tracks, quickly. The East NY section, one sq mile, went form 1800 murders a year to 150. There were a lot of people that thought he would fail because of the "you can't stop evil people" mentality. Crime can be stopped with good laws, good security, and law enforcement. Guiliani made it much tougher to commit and get away with crime.
Last edited by pandy; 02-17-2018 at 01:06 PM.
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02-17-2018, 01:15 PM
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Location: New Hampshire
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Originally Posted by pandy
Whatever problems are causing the violence and mental illness in society will hopefully work itself out over time. But that doesn't solve the problem now. When Guiliani took over NY, he stopped crime of all sorts in its tracks, quickly. The East NY section, one sq mile, went form 1800 murders a year to 150. There were a lot of people that thought he would fail because of the "you can't stop evil people" mentality. Crime can be stopped with good laws, good security, and law enforcement. Guiliani made it much tougher to commit and get away with crime.
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Guiliani is the one hidden gem inside team Trump, many secrets will surface because of his work and many will die with him when it is his time. Because of this I fully expect a serious backfire on the left in their strategy, not that this belongs inside this thread.
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02-17-2018, 01:23 PM
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all this gun control talk is election year crap. the dems have had numerous chances to pass more strict laws and haven't. it's all smoke and mirrors. the bottom line is you can pass all the laws you want and you aren't going to stop people from killing. who the hell you kidding. they dems don't even care enough about gun killings to even make a feeble attempt in chicago. so they have zero credibility. and your just as dumb as they are if you actually believe they desire to do anything. Politicians have already trampled on the second amendment enough. Any more and they're in for a big ass rude awakening.
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02-17-2018, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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this would actually help us as a nation. they aren't learning anything of value there anymore anyway
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02-17-2018, 03:07 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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Can you cite a source for "public opposition" to the Assault Weapons Ban?
Your Wiki article says nothing about it, altho it does cite public support for the ban in the first place:
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In November 1993, the proposed legislation passed the U.S. Senate. The bill's author, Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and other advocates said that it was a weakened version of the original proposal.[7] In May 1994, former presidents Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan, wrote to the U.S. House of Representatives in support of banning "semi-automatic assault guns". They cited a 1993 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll that found 77 percent of Americans supported a ban on the manufacture, sale, and possession of such weapons.
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02-17-2018, 03:27 PM
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6 pages and not one mention of high capacity magazines? Or is that too "common sense" and obvious?
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02-17-2018, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Pandy,
We had school shootings during 0bama - and they had both houses to boot. no common sense laws were passed.
WHERE WERE NANCY and CHUCKIE back then, horsey, Dan?
WHY did the dems let the nation down by FAILING to take advantage of the power they held to pass common sense gun laws?
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NANCY and CHUCKIE were taking orders from HARRY
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02-17-2018, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
NANCY and CHUCKIE were taking orders from HARRY
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What exactly is that dingbat up to these days.
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02-17-2018, 03:56 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Originally Posted by fast4522
What exactly is that dingbat up to these days.
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She built a "She-Shed" in her backyard.
We just call it the Bat Cave.
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02-17-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Can you cite a source for "public opposition" to the Assault Weapons Ban?
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There was enough public opposition to renewing it in 2004 to kill any attempt to renew the ban.
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Between May 2003 and June 2008, U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, D-CA, and Representatives Michael Castle, R-DE, Alcee Hastings, D-FL, and Mark Kirk, R-IL, introduced bills to reauthorize the ban.[37] During the same time, Senator Frank Lautenberg, D-NJ, and Representative Carolyn McCarthy, D-NY, introduced similar bills to create a new ban with a revised definition for assault weapons. None of the bills left committee.[38]
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Politicians know what side their bread is buttered on.
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Your Wiki article says nothing about it, altho it does cite public support for the ban in the first place:
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The "public" believed their "leaders" who told them it was a good thing and put an end to all evil in the world.
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02-17-2018, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BaffertsWig
6 pages and not one mention of high capacity magazines? Or is that too "common sense" and obvious?
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Hi-cap mags were included in the 1994 ban. Faced with the reality that banning possession of such mags was impossible, and that such a ban would have a good chance of being struck down by the courts, the ban was on the sale of any manufactured after the effective date of the ban.
There were probably millions of such magazines in the hands of the public at the time. It was never difficult to purchase them, but the prices went up about 50%.
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02-17-2018, 05:24 PM
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This was the 90’s.. robbers out gunning cops, absolute insanity!!!.. now children are being killed in schools.. something has to be done with gun control!!!
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02-17-2018, 05:41 PM
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