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09-23-2017, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SharpCat
West Coast looked much the best on paper and ran to it. Not sure what there plans are for this year but looks to be a hell of a 4yo if he stays in training.
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Maybe Baffert will go for BC's trifecta.
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09-23-2017, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by luisbe
Maybe Baffert will go for BC's trifecta.
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tough call, i wont be shocked to see baffert do something like the Clark Pegasus and avoid his best horses this year.
West Coast is not Arrogate, and not sure he is as good as Collected.
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09-23-2017, 06:45 PM
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WC was very impressive -best of a mediocre crop. Don’t understand the tactics with Timeline -would not have mattered but why try to rate there? Anyway, he’s been exposed.
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09-23-2017, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
tough call, i wont be shocked to see baffert do something like the Clark Pegasus and avoid his best horses this year.
West Coast is not Arrogate, and not sure he is as good as Collected.
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Not a bad idea if they skipped the Classic and did the Clark, Pegasus and DWC.
IMO he is the inly 3yo that should consider running in the Classic. If he does go in the Classic that would be 4 for Baffert and possibly half of the field.
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09-23-2017, 06:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
tough call, i wont be shocked to see baffert do something like the Clark Pegasus and avoid his best horses this year.
West Coast is not Arrogate, and not sure he is as good as Collected.
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I'm not sure about the Collected part.
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09-23-2017, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I'm not sure about the Collected part.
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There is still something about West Coast that does not sell me, I think he has taken advantage of a very very weak crop that has been raced out the back half of the year.
Also, I had been hearing about Arrogate back early last year, West Coast was more or less another decent horse in the barn.
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09-23-2017, 07:17 PM
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If I was Baffert, I'd get Arrogate and all my big horses on a plane to Churchill or somewhere, then ship back to Del Mar on BC Tues or so. His record shipping in for these big races is insane. Not so much so leading them from their barn to the paddock.
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09-23-2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
If I was Baffert, I'd get Arrogate and all my big horses on a plane to Churchill or somewhere, then ship back to Del Mar on BC Tues or so. His record shipping in for these big races is insane. Not so much so leading them from their barn to the paddock.
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Didn't he win the San Diego and the Pacific Classic?
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09-23-2017, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Didn't he win the San Diego and the Pacific Classic?
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He lost the first with a 1-9 favorite, and won the latter with the wrong horse.
My comment was tongue in cheek, but it does seem his horses are running insane off the plane. Even today, the filly hung really tough considering Mike's premature move.
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09-23-2017, 07:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
He lost the first with a 1-9 favorite, and won the latter with the wrong horse.
My comment was tongue in cheek, but it does seem his horses are running insane off the plane. Even today, the filly hung really tough considering Mike's premature move.
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I agree, the filly would have jogged making a wide move from last around the turn, and the best part of that is you will never be criticized for a move like that, other than the lost to much ground haters.
That filly wasnt good today, she should have won.
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09-23-2017, 08:21 PM
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Stakes figs at Parx today:
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09-23-2017, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
He lost the first with a 1-9 favorite, and won the latter with the wrong horse.
My comment was tongue in cheek, but it does seem his horses are running insane off the plane. Even today, the filly hung really tough considering Mike's premature move.
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Think that has more to do with having the best horses. We've been discussing it for a while now, west coast horses are just better on dirt. On turf, it is the other way around.
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09-23-2017, 10:04 PM
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I heard Irap broke down after the wire, to have surgery tomorrow morning.
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09-23-2017, 10:35 PM
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Yeah I heard that too.....because it's been reported for hours now by all the racing publications.
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09-24-2017, 12:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
I heard Irap broke down after the wire, to have surgery tomorrow morning.
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I suspect it initially happened during the race when he bore in sharply during the stretch run. He might have been running in pain and on heart after that.
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