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View Poll Results: Is the Churchill Downs/Keeneland Partnership a good thing or bad for Industry?
It's a good thing for the Industry 0 0%
It's a bad thing for the Industry....Boycott Keeneland! 19 70.37%
I don't care either way. 8 29.63%
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:08 PM   #16
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Who owns Kentucky Downs?
Anybody? Buehler?
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:29 PM   #17
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According to Wikipedia, Kentucky Downs is owned by Corey Johnsen & Ray Reid.

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Old 09-16-2017, 09:29 PM   #18
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Thanks!

I did not know they had slots there. 600 gaming machines.

I looked up the owners. One was Prez of Lonestar park at one time.

I was wondering why CDX hadnt just bought them out. Those gaming machines must be very valuable if CDX just can't buy the place
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:46 PM   #19
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The owner of Kentucky Downs tries to get more dates to race every year but gets screwed over by Churchill and Keeneland.
exactly; always blocked by CDI and KEE. Why doesn't CDI and KEE fix turfway-its by the biggest market
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Old 09-17-2017, 06:50 PM   #20
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Churchill and Keeneland, RIvals No More while trying to "knife" Kentucky Downs

And if sticking a knife into the heart of Kentucky Downs, which has basked in the national spotlight this month with its highly popular five-day session of unique turf racing and fan-friendly tax rates, that’s an added bonus.

Now we know the real reason for the outrageous takeout increase slated to begin at the Keeneland Fall meet: A homogeneous, maxed-out, tax-on-horseplayer-winnings that not only puts it in line with what CDI charges but sets the same high-rate table it would charge at the new facilities.

To paraphrase Bukowski, “dividends for all my friends!”




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Old 09-17-2017, 08:04 PM   #21
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Old 09-18-2017, 02:52 PM   #23
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I don't know if the author of that article is right or wrong. It sure sounds like there is plenty we don't know about that is going on. I'm guessing that CD and KEE knew they would be turned down, and they unveiled their plans anyway, perhaps in hopes there'd be public pressure to let them proceed. The terse response by the KHRC indicates that they're are annoyed with KEE and CD doing this, and not just because they'd already been told their plan wouldn't be considered. I don't think too many in the industry outside of KEE and CD care about their plans because not many tongues are wagging. The few I've heard aren't in favor and are wondering what CD and KEE are up to.
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Old 09-18-2017, 03:58 PM   #24
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These stories always seem to get better as time passes. And this one doesn’t disappoint. In the first line he writes “In the spirit of full disclosure — which, in truth, is what this column is all about” yet he doesn’t disclose that he, Gene McLean is a lobbyist for Churchill Downs. What kind of a disingenuous “dick” doesn’t disclose that he’s a lobbyist for Churchill Downs (or at least was in 2016) in the article where he talks about truth and transparency?

This is the way the lowlife’s do it. Keep up the good work Gene.
And as always we will apologize IF we got the wrong guy but I don’t think so.
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Gene McLean began his professional career in 1977 as a sportswriter and columnist for the Lexington Herald-Leader in Lexington, Ky., and was recognized as one of the state’s best writers, winning the prestigious “Sportswriter of the Year” honor in 1985. Now the President and Publisher of The Pressbox, McLean sets the vision for the site and still finds time to handicap races, interview trainers and keep his finger on the pulse of the industry, More About Gene.

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Top paid lobbyists for 2016 session


Through the first four months of 2016 many of Frankfort’s top lobbyists have already made much more money in lobbying fees than the $140,000 salary that Gov. Matt Bevin will make for the whole year.

The nearly 700 corporations and associations that lobby the General Assembly are required to report exactly how much they pay each lobbyist they retain. These reports are filed monthly during legislative sessions with the Legislative Ethics Commission.

Recently, these groups reported their lobbying fees and expenses for the month of April. Listed below (according to the commission's website right now) are the total in fees paid to particular lobbyists by their many clients for the 2016 legislative session – Jan. 1 through April 30.

Each of the following lobbyists has many clients. Listed with each name is the total in reported fees paid by all those clients this year through April 30, the number of clients he or she works for, and a sampling of their clients.
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Apparently, the recent decision by Keeneland management to increase takeout wasn't a big enough middle finger to horseplayers.

Now it appears they want to go after Kentucky Downs.

I can think of a few choice words for that:

Players Boycott dot org

Or simply: http://www.PlayersBoycott.org


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Old 09-18-2017, 04:40 PM   #27
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And Churchill Downs is a sponsor of Gene McLean's website. Click the link

SPONSORS of Gene McLeans website

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CHURCHILL DOWNS

Known as the home of the Kentucky Derby and the Kentucky Oaks, Churchill Downs Racetrack conducts Thoroughbred horse racing in Louisville, Kentucky during three race meets in the Spring, September, and the Fall. Thoroughbred racing, the Kentucky Derby, and the Kentucky Oaks have run continuously at Churchill Downs Racetrack since 1875. The track has hosted the Breeders’ Cup World Championships eight times and is scheduled to host again in 2018. www.churchilldowns.com
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I feel like the same people that ref boxing run horse racing
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I feel like the same people that ref boxing ruin horse racing
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Turfway

Turfway was owned by Churchill at one time several years ago
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