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07-24-2014, 01:23 PM
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Art Sherman Considering PA Derby as Breeders' Cup Prep for California Chrome
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07-24-2014, 02:00 PM
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Ducking the Travers and Haskell.
Nice.
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07-24-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Ducking the Travers and Haskell.
Nice.
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Any three-year-old who skips the Haskell or Travers on the way to the Breeders' Cup Classic is a cheater. This is the coward’s way out.
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07-24-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Ducking the Travers and Haskell.
Nice.
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I'm sure he's just trying to be fair to the horses in the Haskell and Travers, that haven't had a long rest.
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07-24-2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Bryan
I'm sure he's just trying to be fair to the horses in the Haskell and Travers, that haven't had a long rest.
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Sarcasm?
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07-24-2014, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by devilsbag
Any three-year-old who skips the Haskell or Travers on the way to the Breeders' Cup Classic is a cheater. This is the coward’s way out.
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They cant dance every dance with the horse. This is a good spot for the horse. The Breeders Cup in my opinion is a bad spot for the horse. I would give him more time off but thats just me.
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07-24-2014, 02:50 PM
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No way he could be ready for the Haskell anyway, considering he was idle for weeks with no training.
Nothing wrong with Pennsylvania Derby.
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07-24-2014, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
No way he could be ready for the Haskell anyway, considering he was idle for weeks with no training.
Nothing wrong with Pennsylvania Derby.
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yep i agree perfect spot
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07-24-2014, 02:54 PM
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CC was in continuous training/racing since his two yr old debut. After the Belmont they announced their intention to take a well deserved break and return in the fall with the Breeders Cup as the main objective.
CC is a multiple graded/Grade(1) stakes winning thoroughbred at multiple race tracks. Returning at PARX would be an opportunity for the summer heros to plan on meeting him.
CC is not dodging anyone.
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07-24-2014, 02:56 PM
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Hes sticking with 3 yr olds and trying to make some more money before he faces older horses. They are doing the right thing with the horse in giving him some time off and still facing 3 yr olds. Horse has been managed beautifully. Now the owners of this horse is a different story.
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07-24-2014, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Sarcasm?
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Yep.
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07-24-2014, 03:05 PM
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They already went across country with him once this year. If they are going to do it again (which they shouldn't) it should be for the Travers.
Don't fool yourself, the prep race the horse belongs in is the Awesome Again at Santa Anita. It's a short van ride from training, on the same track as the BC, and leaves him plenty of time to get ready.
Pennsylvania Derby makes no sense, until of course you consider the elephant in the room.
That elephant's name starts with Shared and ends with Belief.
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07-24-2014, 03:13 PM
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Only one prep? That is not the way I would go. It is six weeks from the Penn Derby to the BC. One race after 3 1/2 months off and then another 6 week gap? Find another race for him 2 or 3 weeks before the BC in October and put some more bottom on him. He will be going 1 1/4 miles against the very best older horses, and needs to be dead fit to beat them. If not, he gets thumped.
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07-24-2014, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Phinney
They already went across country with him once this year. If they are going to do it again (which they shouldn't) it should be for the Travers.
Don't fool yourself, the prep race the horse belongs in is the Awesome Again at Santa Anita. It's a short van ride from training, on the same track as the BC, and leaves him plenty of time to get ready.
Pennsylvania Derby makes no sense, until of course you consider the elephant in the room.
That elephant's name starts with Shared and ends with Belief.
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Disagree 100% Why tackle Shared Belief in CC's 1st start off the layoff? Makes no sense to do that. The horse is a good shipper and it makes sense. I can also see them running in the Super Derby at La Downs.
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07-24-2014, 03:16 PM
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My bad i thought the race at Parx was in August.
I also think he needs 2 preps before the BC
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