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03-27-2024, 02:42 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The man is ridiculous, Ralph...nothing that he says makes any sense. At the 7:00 minute mark of the video he states that it's reason enough to vote for Trump just because he is "going to get rid of Obamacare". Is there any voter with an above-idiot IQ who actually believes that Trump will "get rid of Obamacare"? As I said in my first post in this thread...didn't Trump already promise to do that in his first stint as president?
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Coincidently this has come up this week
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ies-rcna145187
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03-27-2024, 02:46 PM
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Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Silver plan premium under the ACA for an average 60 year old is 1250.00 per month. Add in deductables.
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You left out what many people who have not even peeked at Obamacare do not know. The "Silver Plan" or anything similar did not exist back in the day,
call it what it is, 70% coverage. How about Bronze Plans for 60% coverage?
I would bet you a steak and lobster dinner plus drinks against a quarter as in 25 cents, that all of your Democrat Obamacare lovers either or, do not know what a bronze or silver plan is or consider pricing without the government paying all or part of it. You really cannot call a bronze or silver plan having coverage. As I said earlier I let my insurance lapse when I moved and was no longer "grandfathered" in. I found out cash price on a lot of procedures was 25% or less of what they billed insurance, therefore bronze & silver plans = no coverage.
As for "grandfathered" in, I read now the PC police say that is a racist term that originated in the slave days and should not be used. To that I say piss on them.
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03-27-2024, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1772279457711034482
Only problem with this soliloquy is that Trump promised to get rid of Obamacare from 2017-2021...didn't get it done then...won't get it done if elected in 2024...because...they will be ramming him even harder up the ass then ever before...30,000 impeachments will be coming...the Dems will likely control both houses...you name it...
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Powerful video, with real life experience and effect
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03-27-2024, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
In this video we have a guy who is obviously older in age, but probably due to his physical disability he had been forced to work at a minimum-wage job, at least until the year 2017. And he gives credit to then-president Trump for the "substantial" minimum-wage increase that he received...althought it has always been the DEMOCRATS who have been fighting for the "substantial" increase in minimum wage labor...whereas the Republicans have always maintained that the "substantial" minimum wage increases are unnecessary because minimum wage was never intended to be a 'living wage'.
So, I ask...how can these videos ever be taken seriously?
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I was going to bust the guy in the video's balls, but watch again. You made an incorrect assumption. He credited his raise to Trump tax cuts and used the term "minimum wage" instead of "starting wage" to reference the wages his employer and others were paying. I understand the assumption you made as
somewhere between 50-80% of people attribute credit or blame to levels of government that have nothing to do with the situation.
Case in point, 30 states have higher than the federal minimum wage, and some cities even top their state minimum wage. So if someone in California said "Under Biden I got $20 an hour to work at McDonalds", obviously Biden had nothing to do with it, that was on Governor Newsom. Same thing with Covid protocols, that was on state and locale governments, nothing to do with Trump or Biden.
So the moral of the story is most voters are dumbasses when it comes to how politics effect us and those dumbasses vote for both parties. I do believe since most of the media leans left there are more lefty dumbasses that righties.
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03-27-2024, 07:01 PM
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Location: North Riverside, Il.
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
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Obamacare is terrible. So bad that for 2024,
The Biden-Harris Administration announced 21.3 million people selected an Affordable Care Act Health Insurance Marketplace plan during the 2024 Open Enrollment Period. Total plan selections include more than five million people — about a fourth — who are new to the Marketplaces and 16 million people who renewed their coverage. Notably, open enrollment continues in four states and Washington, D.C., through January 31.
Some random guy in an SUV makes unsubstantiated claims and you fall for it hook line and sinker. Can you prove any of it is true?
The guy was never a Democrat. Unlikely that he had bone cancer. Probably still has both arms. Insurance rates had nothing to do with Obamacare.
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03-27-2024, 07:14 PM
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PA Steward
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Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The guy was never a Democrat. Unlikely that he had bone cancer. Probably still has both arms. Insurance rates had nothing to do with Obamacare.
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You're like the epitome of the old man dick stereotype
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03-27-2024, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Obamacare is terrible. So bad that for 2024,
The Biden-Harris Administration announced 21.3 million people selected an Affordable Care Act Health Insurance Marketplace plan during the 2024 Open Enrollment Period. Total plan selections include more than five million people — about a fourth — who are new to the Marketplaces and 16 million people who renewed their coverage. Notably, open enrollment continues in four states and Washington, D.C., through January 31.
Some random guy in an SUV makes unsubstantiated claims and you fall for it hook line and sinker. Can you prove any of it is true?
The guy was never a Democrat. Unlikely that he had bone cancer. Probably still has both arms. Insurance rates had nothing to do with Obamacare.
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From CMS.gov
The Biden-Harris Administration has continued its commitment to making health insurance available and affordable to everyone, and the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and the American Rescue Plan continue to keep Marketplace coverage affordable. Thanks to the IRA, four in five HealthCare.gov customers were able to find health care coverage for $10 or less per month for plan year 2024 after subsidies.
80% paid $10 or less a month, so they signed up for free health care, I am sure next to none of the others paid much either. You know what you can do with your blind homerism a 5rd grader would probably know better than to buy into your take, I know I would have at that age.
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03-27-2024, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The guy was never a Democrat. Unlikely that he had bone cancer. Probably still has both arms. Insurance rates had nothing to do with Obamacare.
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When was the last time you had to buy your own health insurance? What makes you so sure insurance rates were not affected by 0bamacare? Did you hear that from Maddow? like inflation is under control because costs are going down? maybe they meant the rate of increasing costs is going down?
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03-27-2024, 10:02 PM
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Location: Beaverdam Virginia
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Originally Posted by mostpost
Obamacare is terrible. So bad that for 2024,
The Biden-Harris Administration announced 21.3 million people selected an Affordable Care Act Health Insurance Marketplace plan during the 2024 Open Enrollment Period. Total plan selections include more than five million people — about a fourth — who are new to the Marketplaces and 16 million people who renewed their coverage. Notably, open enrollment continues in four states and Washington, D.C., through January 31.
Some random guy in an SUV makes unsubstantiated claims and you fall for it hook line and sinker. Can you prove any of it is true?
The guy was never a Democrat. Unlikely that he had bone cancer. Probably still has both arms. Insurance rates had nothing to do with Obamacare.
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So funny how you call everyone a liar if their story does not match the narrative your "trusted sources" sell you. So now you are calling a handicapped amputee a liar and saying he made up having bone cancer.
If you weren't a blind dumbass you could tell by his shoulder profile he is missing an arm, you are the worst kind of hate filled evil, the biggest dumbass on this site, who thinks they are smart, piss off you piece of shit.
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03-27-2024, 10:27 PM
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Location: Baystater
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Massachusetts has an individual mandate requeiring healthcare. Fine from 288.00 to over 2000.00 if you dont comply.
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03-27-2024, 10:39 PM
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Location: North Riverside, Il.
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Originally Posted by davew
When was the last time you had to buy your own health insurance? What makes you so sure insurance rates were not affected by 0bamacare? Did you hear that from Maddow? like inflation is under control because costs are going down? maybe they meant the rate of increasing costs is going down?
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This month. And next month and the month after that. Every month I p ay over $200 a month for Health insurance through USPS. Apparently you are one of the nitwits who thinks federal employees and retirees get free health care. Not true. On average I would say my premiums go up 2-4% each year.
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03-27-2024, 10:55 PM
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maybe, but they must also be paying some because someone your age would be paying between $6-10K/yr in most states
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03-27-2024, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
maybe, but they must also be paying some because someone your age would be paying between $6-10K/yr in most states
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Yes, they do. It’s called a benefit. Lots of companies have them. I looked up my monthly premium. $269 a month; approximately $7 a month more than last year. I think I pay 25-35% of the total premium
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03-27-2024, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Massachusetts has an individual mandate requeiring healthcare. Fine from 288.00 to over 2000.00 if you dont comply.
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So, comply.
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03-27-2024, 11:53 PM
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Yes. Shut up and Comply.
The popular answer in a lot of circles these days.
Interesting chart from Statista:
Another interesting chart from Peterson-KFF:
Fyi, the Peterson-KFF chart is in Billions with a B.
Wasn't aware health care in the US costs 2X what they pay in Canada.
This despite the US throwing hundreds of Billions of our tax dollars at it.
But yeah. Shut up.
And Comply.
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