Polar Bear Expert's Opinions "Unhelpful" to GW

[hcap]

Originally Posted by davew

not rejecting it, just realizing it is not foolproof


and skeptical of papers that look like opinion pieces rather than science.

But what about all the scientific organizations I posted?
Name one accredited organization that rejects AGW. BTW, name one university that rejects AGW. There aren't any. In order for these organizations to be fooled by fraudulent papers, or"opinion pieces" the fraud must be gigantic.

I agree peer review can be wrong, but the degree of error is not enough to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

How would you know an opinion piece from an honest scientific paper? Consult maybe with boxcar who thinks effect can precede cause

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

There's a much stronger case to be made that the fossil fuel industry who supports much of the anti AGW climate deniers have lied thru their teeth

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmin...y#.WmV7VHlrwsU

Union of Concerned Scientists’ Campaign on Fossil Fuel Climate Deception and Accountability: A Timeline


...UCS has worked on climate change since 1988. Since those early days, we’ve set the record straight when individuals, organizations, and corporations misled the public about climate science.

I don't get any money from the fossil fuel industry, yet I don't believe in AGW.

By the way, are all the AGW fear mongers, including yourself, still buying and consuming fossil fuel? Must be really tough for you to do that since your money is supporting the fossil fuel industry's propaganda. The very least you duped people could do is trade all your vehicles in for skate boards.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I don't get any money from the fossil fuel industry, yet I don't believe in AGW.

By the way, are all the AGW fear mongers, including yourself, still buying and consuming fossil fuel? Must be really tough for you to do that since your money is supporting the fossil fuel industry's propaganda. The very least you duped people could do is trade all your vehicles in for skate boards.

I am legally blind. I don't drive.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I don't get any money from the fossil fuel industry, yet I don't believe in AGW.

Again...

Our entire species survives by literally lighting stuff on fire.

But that couldn't play any part in accelerating global warming? It likely plays some part no...?

[xtb]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Again...

Our entire species survives by literally lighting stuff on fire.

But that couldn't play any part in accelerating global warming? It likely plays some part no...?

Are Martians lighting stuff on fire too?

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/re...rswarming.html

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Again...

Our entire species survives by literally lighting stuff on fire.

But that couldn't play any part in accelerating global warming? It likely plays some part no...?

You should ask the fire experts out in Kalifornia who don't want to take preventive measure to control those fires.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You should ask the fire experts out in Kalifornia who don't want to take preventive measure to control those fires.

That and Mars has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by xtb

Are Martians lighting stuff on fire too?

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/re...rswarming.html

Maybe there is global warming on the sun? Many factors contribute to AGW. Volcanic activity for one. Surface reflectively for another. From your NASA article. (which btw, is from2007)

"To determine the extent of surface changes on Mars, scientists took images from the Viking (launched 1975) and Mars Global Surveyor (1996) satellite missions and mapped them into a climate model developed at NASA Ames Research Center. They discovered that a wind-whipped, dusty surface has a measurable effect on the amount of sunlight that is reflected by the planet. The results of this research show that an increase in darkened surface areas may account for a one degree Fahrenheit rise in the surface air temperature of the planet."

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by xtb

Are Martians lighting stuff on fire too?

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/re...rswarming.html

Mars doesn't have a magnetic field. Nor meaningful atmosphere.

Comparisons between Mars and Earth are pointless.

Answering a question with a unrelated question isn't a way to make a point.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

That and Mars has absolutely nothing to do with my question.

Here ponder this: Did man invent fire or did he discover it?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Here ponder this: Did man invent fire or did he discover it?

Can't answer a simple common sense question huh?

You're in the minority here as even the people on here who are against GW policy admit we probably play some part and just don't care that much. Hell I fall into that category.

But you ... you're special.

Turn on a light, take a shower, drive somewhere, heat OR cool your home, make dinner... something somewhere is being set on fire to make that happen. So again... with all that burning of stuff for energy could it maybe be the tiniest bit possible we might play a role in global warming? Yes or no. If no I'd love to hear the reasoning.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Here ponder this: Did man invent fire or did he discover it?

Where there is smoke there is fire.

Cause, effect.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Can't answer a simple common sense question huh?

You're in the minority here as even the people on here who are against GW policy admit we probably play some part and just don't care that much. Hell I fall into that category.

But you ... you're special.

Turn on a light, take a shower, drive somewhere, heat OR cool your home, make dinner... something somewhere is being set on fire to make that happen. So again... with all that burning of stuff for energy could it maybe be the tiniest bit possible we might play a role in global warming? Yes or no. If no I'd love to hear the reasoning.

Nor can you answer a common sense question! Permit to rephrase the question: Is fire a natural element or a man-made one?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Where there is smoke there is fire.

Cause, effect.

You sure about that, 'cap?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You sure about that, 'cap?

Wait till Mueller finishes investigating the very thick smoke.