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02-01-2022, 03:42 PM
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Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
He was Kinchen's partner for the TV project and part of the impetus in sending the letter accusing me to the NTRA.
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Gotcha, just was a chance to besmirch him using this situation. thanks for clarifying.
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02-01-2022, 04:05 PM
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#62
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Gotcha, just was a chance to besmirch him using this situation. thanks for clarifying.
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What is good for the goose, is good for the gander?
You're the man, Vic.
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02-01-2022, 04:41 PM
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#63
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Originally Posted by JeremyJet
What is good for the goose, is good for the gander?
You're the man, Vic.
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yea, not sure that is the best way to operate but to each is own
like your profile pic!
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02-01-2022, 04:57 PM
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#64
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Handicapper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
yea, not sure that is the best way to operate but to each is own
like your profile pic!
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You know what they say: "Nice guys finish last." 😁
I like a few songs from Yes, but I like music that's more heavy & dark. Black Sabbath is more my style.
"Yes" was the three letter abbreviation I used for video game high scores back in the day. I could play Asteroids and Defender all day on one quarter.
"Yes" also had the coolest concert shirt art, IMHO. I had a bunch.
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02-01-2022, 06:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by JeremyJet
You know what they say: "Nice guys finish last." 😁
I like a few songs from Yes, but I like music that's more heavy & dark. Black Sabbath is more my style.
"Yes" was the three letter abbreviation I used for video game high scores back in the day. I could play Asteroids and Defender all day on one quarter.
"Yes" also had the coolest concert shirt art, IMHO. I had a bunch.
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I really liked Wakeman. Saw him with the band and solo.
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02-01-2022, 06:23 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Austin, Tx
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
...I was forced to give a 90 minute interview with some independent investigator when I finished 8th in the BCBC...
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Vic, I'm curious what they were actually accusing you of. Can you elaborate?
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02-01-2022, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Phantom
Vic, I'm curious what they were actually accusing you of. Can you elaborate?
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Collusion.
A friend of mine and I agreed and bet on some of the same horses.
We also lost on some of the same horses.
We handicapped together and sometimes were like minded.
That's not collusion.
Collusion is when a group of people all go ALL IN on the same race.
Taking 4 entries of $10,000 and combining it into one much more powerful entry of $40,000 or more.
We didn't do anything even close to that.
There were several races we bet on and LOST on the same key horses.
There were also many times when we didn't even bet in the same race.
The investigator ruled there was NOTHING AT ALL to prove we had acted in an unethical or illegal manner.
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02-01-2022, 07:26 PM
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Saving Face
Now that Kinchen takes a check from America's Day At The Races, it's to his advantage to say that he was DQ'ed from competition rather than admitting that he placed dead last.
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02-01-2022, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bustin Stones
Now that Kinchen takes a check from America's Day At The Races, it's to his advantage to say that he was DQ'ed from competition rather than admitting that he placed dead last.
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Good tournament players finish DEAD LAST all the time. There's no reason to finish in the middle of the pack.
Most of the tournaments I play I end up with either ZERO points accrued or $0 dollars in my account.
I don't agree with that take.
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02-01-2022, 07:46 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Good tournament players finish DEAD LAST all the time. There's no reason to finish in the middle of the pack.
Most of the tournaments I play I end up with either ZERO points accrued or $0 dollars in my account.
I don't agree with that take.
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He's not impressing anyone with his TV handicapping. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I must be wrong because he has a reputation of being a superior handicapper.
Vic, I've been exposed to your handicapping a few times. It's not even close from what I've seen. You're the man, Vic. You're what I would call a superior handicapper.
Remember that Parx shipper at Belmont this past summer? The 50/1 shot that missed by two necks? That was frickin sweet handicapping.
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02-01-2022, 08:18 PM
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#71
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 5,803
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Good tournament players finish DEAD LAST all the time. There's no reason to finish in the middle of the pack.
Most of the tournaments I play I end up with either ZERO points accrued or $0 dollars in my account.
I don't agree with that take.
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Truth
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02-03-2022, 10:33 PM
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Theres rumors of a few years ago, regarding him in true collusion in cash tourney on track-
A lot of details emerging now- will be curious to see how the NTRA handles it and what the players committee ( his friends) do.
Already pay a lot of money for tourneys and qualifiers- just as soon play pools and forego tourneys, but damn, I love the atmosphere of cash tourneys,.
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02-04-2022, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Good tournament players finish DEAD LAST all the time. There's no reason to finish in the middle of the pack.
Most of the tournaments I play I end up with either ZERO points accrued or $0 dollars in my account.
I don't agree with that take.
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I can understand a points tourney but live money would think the logic would be different. Why throw good money after bad?
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02-04-2022, 12:22 PM
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#74
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,239
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v j stauffer
Good tournament players finish DEAD LAST all the time. There's no reason to finish in the middle of the pack.
Most of the tournaments I play I end up with either ZERO points accrued or $0 dollars in my account.
I don't agree with that take.
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I ended up with $12.60 so there's that. :-)
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02-04-2022, 12:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by ubercapper
I ended up with $12.60 so there's that. :-)
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LOL...Does that get you back home?
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