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01-02-2023, 09:52 AM
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Are there any ACTUAL superpowers left in the world?
When is the last time Russia or the USA actually won a war?
I guess we won in Iraq (although we didn't actually get anything out of it)...so we might be better than Russia, who couldn't win in Afghanistan (neither could we) and now can't seem to beat Ukraine....
CHINA seems to be the only one left, but they are also untested....
Is everything just fake and a lie?
Somebody is going to bring up nukes next I suppose...they don't really count...because if they get used, it's likely game over for everyone.
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01-02-2023, 09:58 AM
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We were a super power until Spineless Joe Biden was put in office.
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01-02-2023, 11:17 AM
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Just another Facist
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China and Russia tower above everyone in certain areas.
The U.S. 2 categories.
Air Forces
Naval capability
Both China and Russia will take our country down with an EMP PULSE ANYWAY.
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01-02-2023, 12:05 PM
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between hackers, EMPs, satellites, etc...I'm guessing Russia & China could cripple us at will...one would HOPE our defenses are in place, but you never fucking know with the clowns running the show currently (and I INCLUDE the clowns running the show under TRUMP and OBAMA as well).
How many times is something going to FAIL only to hear "well, nobody ever thought something like this could ever happen"
It's sad when you have sunk to a ZERO FAITH level
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01-02-2023, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
When is the last time Russia or the USA actually won a war?
I guess we won in Iraq (although we didn't actually get anything out of it)...so we might be better than Russia, who couldn't win in Afghanistan (neither could we) and now can't seem to beat Ukraine....
CHINA seems to be the only one left, but they are also untested....
Is everything just fake and a lie?
Somebody is going to bring up nukes next I suppose...they don't really count...because if they get used, it's likely game over for everyone.
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What the USA rebuilt them
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01-02-2023, 10:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
China and Russia tower above everyone in certain areas.
The U.S. 2 categories.
Air Forces
Naval capability
Both China and Russia will take our country down with an EMP PULSE ANYWAY.
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These United States & Israel lead in this technology in joint development, in short a sitting US President could in the past leverage with holding back of needed parts and funding. Advancements have come specifically inside joint ventures in projects that are not common knowledge outside the United State Air Force and Israeli Air Force top echelon. My thoughts are we will not hear much about new things until very huge mistakes are made forcing the need to use. That being said, yes Putin is a problem but may be killed or politically eliminated by his own. Once that happens it will be like 1963 all over again with a stable period that follows. But how we got to this point with a laughingstock in the White House we as a people need to correct. Policy is so important because because huge parts of our country are dying and in turn country's are facing similar fates. When we come back, and we will as we have before. We will lift other country's up as well. Bad policy is hung onto by people almost dead because it does not matter to them. But someone just starting a family the fright felt is enormous.
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01-02-2023, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
These United States & Israel lead in this technology in joint development, in short a sitting US President could in the past leverage with holding back of needed parts and funding. Advancements have come specifically inside joint ventures in projects that are not common knowledge outside the United State Air Force and Israeli Air Force top echelon. My thoughts are we will not hear much about new things until very huge mistakes are made forcing the need to use. That being said, yes Putin is a problem but may be killed or politically eliminated by his own. Once that happens it will be like 1963 all over again with a stable period that follows. But how we got to this point with a laughingstock in the White House we as a people need to correct. Policy is so important because because huge parts of our country are dying and in turn country's are facing similar fates. When we come back, and we will as we have before. We will lift other country's up as well. Bad policy is hung onto by people almost dead because it does not matter to them. But someone just starting a family the fright felt is enormous.
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Bravo, Fast, BRAVO!!
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01-02-2023, 11:29 PM
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Pure silliness.
By any metric the United States is the world’s only superpower.
No other nation comes close.
https://now.tufts.edu/2019/11/21/why...nly-superpower
Worth the read.
… United States has a huge lead by the most important measures of national power. China is the only country that comes close, and America still has three times China’s wealth and five times its military capabilities…
… Geographically, the United States is a natural economic hub and military fortress. It’s packed with resources and has more economic arteries like navigable waterways and ports than the rest of the world combined...
… Demographically, America is the only nation that is simultaneously big, young, and highly educated. The U.S. workforce is the third largest, second youngest, most educated in years of schooling, and most productive among the major powers—and it is the only major workforce that will grow throughout this century.
China, by contrast, will lose 200 million workers over the next thirty years and add 300 million senior citizens. Chinese workers produce six times less wealth per hour than American workers on average. More than two-thirds of China’s workers lack a high school education; and one-third of Chinese young people entering the workforce have an IQ below 90, largely a result of malnutrition, poor care, and pollution...
… As the only country that can carry out a major war abroad, the United States has the luxury of dealing with foreign threats “over there,” far from its homeland, and keeping death and destruction at arm’s length. It is impossible to overstate how lucky Americans are that none of the major battles in any of the wars of the past 150 years were fought in their cities and towns.
Another benefit is a large margin of error. With a secure homeland and a peerless economy, the United States can do stupid things over and over again without suffering severe punishment. Only the United States could engage in a war as dubious as that in Iraq or trigger the worst global economic crisis since the Great Depression, and remain the richest and most influential country on the planet and retain the support of more than sixty allies, including most of the major powers...
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01-02-2023, 11:40 PM
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Since WW2, our military record has been pretty abysmal...why is that?
For the world's lone superpower, we seem to be on the verge of being a paper tiger in terms of results.
Russia is even worse.
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01-02-2023, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Since WW2, our military record has been pretty abysmal...why is that?
For the world's lone superpower, we seem to be on the verge of being a paper tiger in terms of results.
Russia is even worse.
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From above:
…Another benefit is a large margin of error. With a secure homeland and a peerless economy, the United States can do stupid things over and over again without suffering severe punishment. Only the United States could engage in a war as dubious as that in Iraq or trigger the worst global economic crisis since the Great Depression, and remain the richest and most influential country on the planet and retain the support of more than sixty allies, including most of the major powers...
Trump has lost 200 billion and is still one of the wealthiest men on the planet. Being a superpower sometimes means you can afford to get it wrong.
I urge you to read the article.
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Last edited by TJDave; 01-03-2023 at 12:00 AM.
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01-02-2023, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Pure silliness.
By any metric the United States is the world’s only superpower.
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And by any metric no one fears the idiot you helped get elected, and so nothing you said matters because it only takes one other as stupid as he is for life to be lost on a huge scale.
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01-03-2023, 01:19 AM
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PA Steward
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave
From above:
…Another benefit is a large margin of error. With a secure homeland and a peerless economy, the United States can do stupid things over and over again without suffering severe punishment. Only the United States could engage in a war as dubious as that in Iraq or trigger the worst global economic crisis since the Great Depression, and remain the richest and most influential country on the planet and retain the support of more than sixty allies, including most of the major powers...
Trump has lost 200 billion and is still one of the wealthiest men on the planet. Being a superpower sometimes means you can afford to get it wrong.
I urge you to read the article.
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That article was written before the author realized how dumb America is that they would vote in a man suffering from obvious dementia to the highest office in the land.
That surely banged us down more than a few notches on the superpower scale
Then again, this is the same country that now wants you to think being morbidly obese is AOK and anyone telling you otherwise is basically a white supremacist.
Welcome to American SUPERPOWER!
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 01-03-2023 at 01:21 AM.
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01-03-2023, 01:23 AM
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PA Steward
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Oh, and to top it all off, I read in the news today that the esteemed GENERAL MARK (I lost Afghanistan) MILLEY is at it again telling more bullshit stories about his former boss.
AMERICAN SUPERPOWER!
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01-03-2023, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
That article was written before the author realized how dumb America is that they would vote in a man suffering from obvious dementia to the highest office in the land.
That surely banged us down more than a few notches on the superpower scale
Then again, this is the same country that now wants you to think being morbidly obese is AOK and anyone telling you otherwise is basically a white supremacist.
Welcome to American SUPERPOWER!
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We were a superpower before Biden and will be after.
When Jimmy Carter failed to rescue the hostages.
When Ford abandoned Vietnam.
When Regan turned tail on Beirut
Khobar towers, USS Cole, 1st World Trade Center bombing.
9/11/2001
None of these events have diminished our standing as the the world’s preeminent power. Since the end of WWII we have been king ****…
Regardless who is President.
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01-03-2023, 08:07 AM
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there are some weird partnerships happening throughout the world. one that hardly anyone hears about is Japan-USA. Japan is getting pretty strong again militarily.
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