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06-02-2023, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cigar2
Thought you were done with the game? Or maybe I read past posts incorrectly?? Meant as reply to Vic
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Reply to Vic...who actually uses his real name here and not a bunch of pre-registered anon email account usernames from years ago?
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06-02-2023, 08:40 PM
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self medicated
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: toga
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I actually think the Derby means less now. It’s somewhat of a Media spectacle like many things and it’s sold to people . Being a realist , how people hate it . But cmon, it’s clear as day these horses are underdeveloped and that race doesn’t prove much like it used to . First off , some are coming in with 3 or 4 races , secondly , since there’s a lack of seasoning and the run up is a few months . Many of them don’t even make it to Saturday . What was there ? Like 5 scratches this year . Then the way it is the winner moves on to the Preakness and it’s hard to get anyone else to re enter in two weeks . Come on , smell the coffee. Last years winner hasn’t won since ! And had to change barns ! Like I said it’s a spectacle that’s packaged and sold . It’s no Championship by any means. Betting wise you can make a killing if you’re lucky but I concentrate on the under card , it’s actually better racing.
As for the track . All these moves just say. “We don’t know what the fck is going on .” To me anyway, You suspended a trainer indefinitely but now a month later …….. it’s the track . “We gotta move .” . Gee, I don’t see pending litigation with that . Unless , you eventually tell the public what’s going on with that . With all this guessing game , cloak and dagger bs . And nothing clearly substantiated. I can’t blame anyone for bailing this ship .
And I’m sick of the stalling and people talking over people when it’s mentioned. You need to perform ethical , medical and physical studies on what’s going on with the breed . I’m no genetic expert or engineer but I’m pretty good at math and logic . And everything is telling me , Houston , you got a problem and it probably lies with the physical health of these athletes. They are brittle and/or tired easily. And the enemies are attacking the weakness. Horse racing operates somewhat secretly , which just breeds the rumors then wonder why the wolves are at the door. Time to put up or shut up . Cause rock bottom is not here yet but it’s not that far off either . “We’re moving from Churchill to Ellis park “. Are you kidding me ?
Last edited by burnsy; 06-02-2023 at 08:43 PM.
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06-02-2023, 09:04 PM
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#18
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Burnsy most racing doesn't mean as much today--Casinos are keeping most venues alive-The old guard are dying off and the younger people don't seen to be that interested--granted Churchill has a problem but they don't stand alone-
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06-02-2023, 09:05 PM
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Well, I’ve lurked for probably 15 years. Never posted but did tonight. If it makes it better my name is Jeff. Ad hominem attacks are constructive though. My point remains. Why comment on something you are done with.
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06-02-2023, 09:33 PM
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[QUOTE=Cigar2;2881456]Thought you were done with the game? Or maybe I read past posts incorrectly?? Meant as reply to Vic[/QUOTE[
How do I respond to that?
If I was a chef and retired should I stop eating?
What an idiotic take.
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06-02-2023, 09:44 PM
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[quote=v j stauffer;2881476]
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Originally Posted by Cigar2
Thought you were done with the game? Or maybe I read past posts incorrectly?? Meant as reply to Vic[/QUOTE[
How do I respond to that?
If I was a chef and retired should I stop eating?
What an idiotic take.
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That’s a terrible analogy but ok. If you are done then why would you be concerned with this? Seems like maybe you want to be done but just shit on the game.
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06-02-2023, 09:48 PM
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[quote=v j stauffer;2881476]
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Originally Posted by Cigar2
Thought you were done with the game? Or maybe I read past posts incorrectly?? Meant as reply to Vic[/QUOTE[
How do I respond to that?
If I was a chef and retired should I stop eating?
What an idiotic take.
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I wouldn’t quit eating but I sure as hell would quit any forum talking about cooking or eating? Make sense.
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06-02-2023, 09:58 PM
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Just Deplorable
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lebanon, Ohio
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No, it doesn't.
Not a bit.
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06-02-2023, 10:02 PM
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They should have tried running clockwise
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06-02-2023, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastajenk
No, it doesn't.
Not a bit.
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Me or Vic?
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06-02-2023, 10:22 PM
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SaratogaFan1
Join Date: Mar 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigar2
Well, I’ve lurked for probably 15 years. Never posted but did tonight. If it makes it better my name is Jeff. Ad hominem attacks are constructive though. My point remains. Why comment on something you are done with.
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For some reason, this board likes to value your opinion on the number of posts you make. Like this place is packed with veteran members…
If there’s any place the symbolizes the decline of horse racing, just look at this place. Don’t take it personally.
Now, Vic laughing about this decision while wanting to use animal-abuser-in-chief Robertino Diodoro as his juice trainer of choice for his failed Let’s Go Racing scam, is just hilarious!
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06-02-2023, 10:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2020
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Originally Posted by $w1fT
For some reason, this board likes to value your opinion on the number of posts you make. Like this place is packed with veteran members…
If there’s any place the symbolizes the decline of horse racing, just look at this place. Don’t take it personally.
Now, Vic laughing about this decision while wanting to use animal-abuser-in-chief Robertino Diodoro as his juice trainer of choice for his failed Let’s Go Racing scam, is just hilarious!
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Agree on Vic and Diodoro
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06-02-2023, 10:40 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $w1fT
For some reason, this board likes to value your opinion on the number of posts you make. Like this place is packed with veteran members…
If there’s any place the symbolizes the decline of horse racing, just look at this place. Don’t take it personally.
Now, Vic laughing about this decision while wanting to use animal-abuser-in-chief Robertino Diodoro as his juice trainer of choice for his failed Let’s Go Racing scam, is just hilarious!
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I don't know how my original post got twisted to this-but while we are at it I for one think you are entirely wrong in saying Vic was out to scam people-I have always appreciated what he brought to this game and found him to be a straight shooter-I know Diodorio is a black eye for the sport but if you think he is the chief abuser get your head out of your ass-
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06-02-2023, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle r
They should have tried running clockwise
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06-03-2023, 12:29 AM
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I'm hoping Churchill track management decides not to mess up the data by having Equibase use track code CAE (Churchill At Ellis.)
Because the races will be run at Ellis:
My preference is that all data (data file names, result file names, running lines, workouts, and compiled stats) bear/be based on track code ELP.
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