Paper and Pencil Systems you enjoy

[shoelessjoe]

Larry Voegele book The Professional Handicapper Method, I also bought Payoff and his seminar book as well.

It worked well at first then downhill from there, actually it worked better for me at the quarter horses

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by shoelessjoe

Larry Voegele book The Professional Handicapper Method, I also bought Payoff and his seminar book as well.

It worked well at first then downhill from there, actually it worked better for me at the quarter horses

My dad bought the Voegele book. Its picks always looked they should win, went off at low odds and almost never did win.

[delayjf]

As I recall, a lot of folks here had some success with Tim Worths Pops and Tips - which was angle / tote board based. Personnally I never used it.

[dnlgfnk]

When I'm in "lazy" trip handicapping mode, I simply am interested in the horse who made the widest move on the turn last race(s). I can't seem to forget Flaming Glory in Aug '08 at Arlington, who made this move in his previous race...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5R6Al9x1I4

and followed up with the classic easier rail trip, 2E at 7-1 odds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMhBd033PIc

Of course, to qualify for "pencil and paper", I often locate the widest horse through accessing the charts and inferring position on the turn.

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by delayjf

As I recall, a lot of folks here had some success with Tim Worths Pops and Tips - which was angle / tote board based. Personnally I never used it.

I learned almost all I know about handicapping from Tom Worth and his Pops and Tips. Due to drugs and drink, I could literally study, fascinated....for days on end. The drugs took their toll, as they always do, and I left the game for 12 years, only just getting back end of last year. I use the software version of Tips, that being the only difference from those days (besides my being sober) Horses seem to still run the same---there's just fewer of them around nowadays.

[lamboguy]

something that i look at are horses that keep running 2nd and third. the type that are in the race most of the time.. if those horses never get the lead, i always go against them for the win. if they do happen to make the front i keep them as a win factor in the race.

[reckless]

In the late 1970s-early 80s there was a guy that sold a system he called The Dot System. I even recall the New York Post turf writer/handicapper, John Piesen, writing a story about it.

If I remember correctly, the dot system went like this:

First, buy all the daily newspapers that provided staff selections.

Place a dot next to the horses that was picked on top by the handicappers in each race. The horse with the most dots in a race -- meaning, of course, the horse picked first by the most public selectors was the win bet.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by reckless

In the late 1970s-early 80s there was a guy that sold a system he called The Dot System. I even recall the New York Post turf writer/handicapper, John Piesen, writing a story about it.

If I remember correctly, the dot system went like this:

First, buy all the daily newspapers that provided staff selections.

Place a dot next to the horses that was picked on top by the handicappers in each race. The horse with the most dots in a race -- meaning, of course, the horse picked first by the most public selectors was the win bet.

The guy's name was Howard Henkin, I believe...and he had enlisted Don Adams, of "Get Smart" fame, as a satisfied customer.

[jk3521]

Originally Posted by reckless

In the late 1970s-early 80s there was a guy that sold a system he called The Dot System. I even recall the New York Post turf writer/handicapper, John Piesen, writing a story about it.

If I remember correctly, the dot system went like this:

First, buy all the daily newspapers that provided staff selections.

Place a dot next to the horses that was picked on top by the handicappers in each race. The horse with the most dots in a race -- meaning, of course, the horse picked first by the most public selectors was the win bet.

Then of course was the "no dot horse". A supposed longshot play.

[mickey_arnold]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

The guy's name was Howard Henkin, I believe...and he had enlisted Don Adams, of "Get Smart" fame, as a satisfied customer.

I was most impressed with its potential because, Mickey Rooney, the celebrated Hollywood Handicapper, lavishly...I meant richly... endorsed it.

Who says you couldn't make money from it !

[mickey_arnold]

Bert Norman-- Quick Figure Handicapping

Mike Warren--- System of the Century ( actual computer printouts , complete with multiple period punctuation marks....classic typewriter font....very impressive)

Warren wore some many guises in his scamster career, that he should have been a costume designer..

See www.paceadvantage.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-21608.html

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Now here's one I haven't had a chance to check out for any length of time.....Fast Figs and Quick Picks

http://www.todaysracingdigest.com/da...icsusingfa.pdf

It's current and could be useful.

The creator is Tim Osterman whose "Fast Figs" are used in the West Coast Today's Racing Digest.

The system keys on his Fast Figs and the M.L. and Final Odds . Modify it with your own Figs and/ or your own ML or Fair Odds, if you wish... Because of its ML and Final odds criteria, it points to strong Fig longshots.

I found few live plays based on its short rules, using my Figs and either the actual ML, an ML projection or my Fair Odds line. Others may have a different experience. Adaptions to its essentials and its simple rules would seem to make it amenable to large database analysis.

I and others without a large database would appreciate the results.

[NorCalGreg]

I was sorta stunned to learn Tim Osterman passed away last year from cancer. He was a very sharp, knowledgeable writer and horseplayer. If you remember Tim or knew him, you can sign his memory book if you'd care to http://obits.reviewjournal.com/obitu...?pid=171868126

[mickey_arnold]

Originally Posted by NorCalGreg

I was sorta stunned to learn Tim Osterman passed away last year from cancer. He was a very sharp, knowledgeable writer and horseplayer. If you remember Tim or knew him, you can sign his memory book if you'd care to http://obits.reviewjournal.com/obitu...?pid=171868126

I am blown away by his passing...Never knew him, but boy, was he on top of things....

Here's an explanation of his Fast Figs:

[NorCalGreg]

Thanks Mickey....haven't seen a Racing Digest since the mid 90's. They always seemed so expensive! LOL I know Warren was a charleton of the highest order. His silly mailings during football season were so comical. He would have his lock of the week...then lock of the month, lock of the season, and finally his..............LOCK OF MODERN CIVILIZATION!!!

[appistappis]

one of my first was dan geer's pro rated longshots.....taught me the value of lone speed.